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JohnR7
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Ok, we will go though the whole thing all over again for the umpteen time.
Genesis 1:1
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
This could mean one of two things. "In the beginning" God created all of the universe, or it could mean God created the earth and the heaven which means the earth atmosphere, the sky or the firmament about the earth.
Now, lets say that it means just the earth, so that gives us a date we are told of about 4.6 billion years. Day one lasted half of that or 2.3 billion years. Day two was 1.15 billion years, day three was 575 million years, day four was 287.5 million years, day five was 147.35 million years, day six was 71.875 million years. Day SEVEN would be 35,937,500 years.
God took a day of rest and did not create anything in that 36 million years. If any changes took place it would have had to be programed in before the 36 million years began.
Is that what your trying to get at, that Neanderthal Man had to of "evolved" from a earlyer man? I am sure we can come up with a better explaination than your gene mutation theory.
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JohnR7
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The Bible dates the creation of Adam and Eve, along with cultavated plants, and domesticated animal. They were all created 6000 years ago, in a area called Eden at the time. That is the area that the history books refer to as the furtile cresent, or the craddle of civilization.
The creation of WHAT? Adam and Eve or the creation of the earth, or the creation of the universe?
Simple, I added up the genologys in the Bible. It is not so hard from Adam to Noah, because Noah we are told was the eight generation from Adam. If you look at the dates there is a chance that Noah's father knew Adam, sense they were both alive for a common time of about 52 years. Noah' father: Lamech died just about five years before the flood.
Adam 130 930
Seth 105 912
Enosh 90 905
Cainan 70 910
Mahalalel 65 890
Lamech 182 777
Noah 600 years old at the flood about 4300 years ago.
Noah lived 950 years
Shem 100 600
Apphaxed 35 439
Salah 30 433
Eber 34 464
Peleg 30 239
Reu 32 239
Serug 30 230
Nahor 29 148
Terah 70 when Abraham was born.
Matthew 1:17
So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.
So 20 + 15 + 15 + 15 = around 65 generations from Adam to Jesus
Luke chapter three has all the generations from Adam to Jesus.
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lucaspa
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5th March 2003 at 02:35 PM JohnR7 said this in Post #184
The Bible dates the creation of Adam and Eve, along with cultavated plants, and domesticated animal. They were all created 6000 years ago, in a area called Eden at the time. That is the area that the history books refer to as the furtile cresent, or the craddle of civilization.
Simple, I added up the genologys in the Bible. It is not so hard from Adam to Noah, because Noah we are told was the eight generation from Adam. If you look at the dates there is a chance that Noah's father knew Adam, sense they were both alive for a common time of about 52 years. Noah' father: Lamech died just about five years before the flood.
Thank you, John, for showing the Bible does not date the creation. You date one creation story by counting back generations. The Bible itself doesn't say "6,000 years ago the universe was created". Actually, it isn't even you. You are plagiarizing Bishop Ussher and should give credit to him.
The creation of WHAT? Adam and Eve or the creation of the earth, or the creation of the universe?
Matthew 1:17
So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.
So 20 + 15 + 15 + 15 = around 65 generations from Adam to Jesus
And how many years is it between generations? Isn't that a number you conjure?
The Bible dates the creation of Adam and Eve, along with cultavated plants, and domesticated animal. They were all created 6000 years ago, in a area called Eden at the time. That is the area that the history books refer to as the furtile cresent, or the craddle of civilization.
Simple, I added up the genologys in the Bible. It is not so hard from Adam to Noah, because Noah we are told was the eight generation from Adam. If you look at the dates there is a chance that Noah's father knew Adam, sense they were both alive for a common time of about 52 years. Noah' father: Lamech died just about five years before the flood.
Thank you, John, for showing the Bible does not date the creation. You date one creation story by counting back generations. The Bible itself doesn't say "6,000 years ago the universe was created". Actually, it isn't even you. You are plagiarizing Bishop Ussher and should give credit to him.
The creation of WHAT? Adam and Eve or the creation of the earth, or the creation of the universe?
Matthew 1:17
So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.
So 20 + 15 + 15 + 15 = around 65 generations from Adam to Jesus
And how many years is it between generations? Isn't that a number you conjure?
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lucaspa
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5th March 2003 at 02:13 PM JohnR7 said this in Post #183
Genesis 1:1
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Adam and Eve aren't in Genesis 1.
Now, lets say that it means just the earth, so that gives us a date we are told of about 4.6 billion years. Day one lasted half of that or 2.3 billion years. Day two was 1.15 billion years, day three was 575 million years, day four was 287.5 million years, day five was 147.35 million years, day six was 71.875 million years. Day SEVEN would be 35,937,500 years.
What happened to "morning and evening" delineating 24 hour days? Aren't you playing fast and loose with a literal reading of the Bible here, John?
If you can play that fast and loose, why can't you discard any attempt to make either Genesis story history?
God took a day of rest and did not create anything in that 36 million years.
Then He started creating again? Where in Genesis 1 does it imply that?
I asked you if any of your professors at your Bible college agree with your interpretation. I haven't seen your response. Do they?
Is that what your trying to get at, that Neanderthal Man had to of "evolved" from a earlyer man? I am sure we can come up with a better explaination than your gene mutation theory.
I think the question is where does Neandertal Man fit in with this chronology. Since neandertals appeared about 200,000 years ago, wouldn't that be in your 36 million year gap? If it was "programmed", how is "programmed" different from evolution? Also, neandertals aren't H. sapiens -- us -- and Genesis 1 or 2 doesn't mention any human species but us. Of course, since you are inventing so much that is not in the Bible, maybe you can invent something here, too.
Genesis 1:1
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Adam and Eve aren't in Genesis 1.
Now, lets say that it means just the earth, so that gives us a date we are told of about 4.6 billion years. Day one lasted half of that or 2.3 billion years. Day two was 1.15 billion years, day three was 575 million years, day four was 287.5 million years, day five was 147.35 million years, day six was 71.875 million years. Day SEVEN would be 35,937,500 years.
What happened to "morning and evening" delineating 24 hour days? Aren't you playing fast and loose with a literal reading of the Bible here, John?
If you can play that fast and loose, why can't you discard any attempt to make either Genesis story history?
God took a day of rest and did not create anything in that 36 million years.
Then He started creating again? Where in Genesis 1 does it imply that?
I asked you if any of your professors at your Bible college agree with your interpretation. I haven't seen your response. Do they?
Is that what your trying to get at, that Neanderthal Man had to of "evolved" from a earlyer man? I am sure we can come up with a better explaination than your gene mutation theory.
I think the question is where does Neandertal Man fit in with this chronology. Since neandertals appeared about 200,000 years ago, wouldn't that be in your 36 million year gap? If it was "programmed", how is "programmed" different from evolution? Also, neandertals aren't H. sapiens -- us -- and Genesis 1 or 2 doesn't mention any human species but us. Of course, since you are inventing so much that is not in the Bible, maybe you can invent something here, too.
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