E=mc2 with Zig Ziglar

[rockytopva]

Comments? Negative one welcome too!

The Power of I Am and E/c2 - Joel Osteen - YouTube

The Power of Motivation and E/c2 with Zig Ziglar - YouTube

 

[Nabobalis]

Are you hoping for a minute by minute comments?

Well having to concentrate on an audio that is unrelated to the text is the first problem.

 

[Blayz]

Are you hoping for a minute by minute comments?

Well having to concentrate on an audio that is unrelated to the text is the first problem.

No, asking someone to visit sewertube is the first problem.

 

[Nabobalis]

No, asking someone to visit sewertube is the first problem.

It isn't that bad, still a lot of high quality videos on there.

 

[rockytopva]

It isn't that bad, still a lot of high quality videos on there.

Trying to tie in science, Christianity, and philosophy. Probably a big no-no. I will take my hits. It is something I felt I had to do.

 

[rockytopva]

There is strong support for creationism here....

1. Amazing how calcium is delivered to the body for bone structure.
2. Amazing how magnesium is delivered to plants for photosynthesis.
3. Amazing how the body rids itself of excess nitrogen.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

There is strong support for creationism here....

1. Amazing how calcium is delivered to the body for bone structure.
2. Amazing how magnesium is delivered to plants for photosynthesis.
3. Amazing how the body rids itself of excess nitrogen.

While I agree that these three natural processes are amazing, how do they offer strong support for Creationism?

I tried to watch the video, but it's essentially a long audio with a long piece text. Could you give us the quick version? I'd rather debate with you, the individual, than talk at a video - if nothing else, the video can't respond.

I'll hazard a guess as to what the video pertains: thought is action. If you think it, it will happen. If you believe it will happen, it will happen. Or something to that effect. The 'law of attraction', and so on.

 

[Nabobalis]

I'll hazard a guess as to what the video pertains: thought is action. If you think it, it will happen. If you believe it will happen, it will happen. Or something to that effect. The 'law of attraction', and so on.

The first couple of minutes had a few incorrect or sloppy worded statements before it went straight in to quoting Greek philosophers and trying to wrap God into the Sun.

 

[ranunculus]

While I agree that these three natural processes are amazing, how do they offer strong support for Creationism?

It's a teleological argument. Because something has function, it was designed to have that function.

Of course this is a fun argument for cute things like nice smelling flowers or such but it kinda breaks down when you realize that bed bugs have institutionalized stab rapes.
Dinosaur Comics - November 27th, 2009 - awesome fun times!

I doubt anyone would say it's amazing that male bedbugs were designed with a hypodermic penis or that female bedbugs were designed with para-genitalia so they don't die from infection when the male stabs her in the chest with his hypodermic penis.

 

[Split Rock]

There is strong support for creationism here....

1. Amazing how calcium is delivered to the body for bone structure.

Also amazing is how brittle are bones become as we age.

There 2. Amazing how magnesium is delivered to plants for photosynthesis.

Also amazing is how inefficient photosynthesis is.

There 3. Amazing how the body rids itself of excess nitrogen.

Also amazing is the fact we have a need to rid ourselves of excess nitrogen. Why not use it like plants do?

 

[rockytopva]

The first couple of minutes had a few incorrect or sloppy worded statements before it went straight in to quoting Greek philosophers and trying to wrap God into the Sun.

If E = mc2 then m = E/c2... Therefore we can find that mass came together with Energy and light... Otherwise Einstiens theory is in error. My timeline for the creation...

1. Eternity - First we have eternity... Which we humans cannot understand.
2. Three groups of Angels led by three arch angels
--- Michael - Strong Angels
--- Gabriel - Wise Angels
--- Lucifer - Worshiping Angels
3. A rebellion in which Lucifer takes a third of the angels with him. - Revelation 12: 3, 4
4. A universe is created...
---The big bang - Gen 1:3
---The universe scatters - Gen 1:4
---I believe that billions of years passed until God called the light day and the darkness light.
---Five additional days of creation - In which we now have Adam.


It is of my beliefs that this universe was created in response to the fall of Lucifer. I believe that Lucifer and his angels grew accustomed to the Fathers light and energies and then began to hate it. When they fell I believe that they were stripped of their remaining light and energy in which they have substituted the true light and energy for the light called ego and arrogance.


So the bible says that God is 'The Father of Lights.' I am a Lab Technician in a large factory and operate OES, AA, and ICP spectrometers. I find that when you excite an atom he will give off a unique wavelength of light. The same light that when into his creation. Because all elements give off a unique wavelength of light I believe that God the Father used different wavelengths of light and energy when he created the universe.

As God is light, so his persona can be best beheld by gazing at the sun. As I have stated in Plato's quotations in the video. And referencing Plato's work 'The Good' (God the Father) had three children...

Spiritual E/c2 (virtue)
Material E/c2 (mass)
Mental E/c2 (Intelligence)

In which God's preferences are in the spiritual E/c2.

 

[rockytopva]

And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. - 2 Cor 11:14

The fall of Lucifer has been revealed to many non-Christians! Interesting enough Lucifer interpreted is 'Light Bearer' or 'C2 bearer' as I would call it.

 

[CabVet]

My timeline for the creation...

Your's is about the 20th I have seen since I started visiting this site, which wasn't that long ago.

 

[Nabobalis]

If E = mc2 then m = E/c2... Therefore we can find that mass came together with Energy and light... Otherwise Einstiens theory is in error. My timeline for the creation...

That is fine, a simple rearrangement of that equation is correct. However the rest of your post doesn't at all come from that equation. The two are not related.

 

[rockytopva]

That is fine, a simple rearrangement of that equation is correct. However the rest of your post doesn't at all come from that equation. The two are not related.

If you ever feel the creators spiritual E/c2 then you will find that which also went into the creation of the universe.

The Likeness of E / c2

"[The sun] is he whom I call the child of the good, whom
the good begat in his own likeness, to be in the visible
world, in relation to sight and the things of sight, what
the good is in the intellectual world in relation to mind and
the things of mind:" - Plato's Republic

According to Plato's epistemology God created the sun in
his own likeness. So the sun is the best image we have of
God the Father and the power of creation here on Earth.
There are also three sources of E / c2 that resemble the
sun [and thus God the Father] here on Earth... Spiritual / Mental / Mass

 

[Nabobalis]

If you ever feel the creators spiritual E/c2 then you will find that which also went into the creation of the universe.

The Likeness of E / c2

"[The sun] is he whom I call the child of the good, whom
the good begat in his own likeness, to be in the visible
world, in relation to sight and the things of sight, what
the good is in the intellectual world in relation to mind and
the things of mind:" - Plato's Republic

According to Plato's epistemology God created the sun in
his own likeness. So the sun is the best image we have of
God the Father and the power of creation here on Earth.
There are also three sources of E / c2 that resemble the
sun [and thus God the Father] here on Earth... Spiritual / Mental / Mass

The creators spiritual E/c2? E=mc^2 only applies to energy and mass. Plato would of been talking about Zues I assume and not the Christian God.

I'm just failing to see how it all links together.

 

[rockytopva]

The creators spiritual E/c2? E=mc^2 only applies to energy and mass. Plato would of been talking about Zues I assume and not the Christian God.

I'm just failing to see how it all links together.

Remember that most of Plato's work dealt with Socrates... Who gave up his life for not bowing the knee to the gods of the state.

 

[mzungu]

It is of my beliefs that this universe was created in response to the fall of Lucifer. I believe that Lucifer and his angels grew accustomed to the Fathers light and energies and then began to hate it. When they fell I believe that they were stripped of their remaining light and energy in which they have substituted the true light and energy for the light called ego and arrogance.

It is exactly that: Your beliefs and nothing more. Now how about some evidences please and oh before I forget; include a theory to explain those evidences and one that can make accurate predictions too!

 

[rockytopva]

It is exactly that: Your beliefs and nothing more. Now how about some evidences please and oh before I forget; include a theory to explain those evidences and one that can make accurate predictions too!

12.25 2060, Isaac Newton, and the Seven Churches - YouTube

 

[rockytopva]

It is important to note that of the three children of The Good...

1. Mass - Cooled E/c2
2. Spiritual - E (motivation, energy, love) / c2 (Faith, hope, joy, charity)
3. Mental - There is E (energy) / c2 (electricity) at work here!

That intelligence and virtue are two different things. Therefore one cannot explain the Spiritual E/c2 with intelligent conversation.