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I heard that the father took the son to a police officer; so how did the father shield the son?

A trooper who was a family friend who basically handled the situation off the record. This same trooper was later sentenced to 56 years in prison for child pornography charges.
 
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That whole movement ONLY associates with their own denomination. Think about it.
I think most people only stick to their churches. I know when I was a kid, and went to the Mormon church. They believe they were the only true church. I'm sure many believe the same thing. They wouldn't have went to a different church to discipline or seek advice. Yes I'm sure the Duggars only seek the religion they believe. I'm sure that's the reason people have been saying they are in a cult.
 
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A lot of people are also commenting about how sexual Jim Bob was towards Michelle on the shows (there's 10 years worth of evidence) on the show and in front of the children.
They kiss in front of the kids. So they understand affections are normal part of marriage.
 
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A trooper who was a family friend who basically handled the situation off the record. This same trooper was later sentenced to 56 years in prison for child pornography charges.
But I'm sure the father had no idea, that this state troopers was into child porn. He was probably trying to get advise on what to do.
 
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All of this. I don't see any justice here. It's not like I'm going to go on their Facebook page and leave nasty comments (I agree that "berating" them is pointless and wrong), but I'll certainly never support them.

And I'm not really sure what it would mean for me to forgive him, anyway. He didn't do anything to me. I don't know him, so I can't know if he's earned forgiveness. The only thing that matters to me is what kind of people I'm supporting with my time and money.
 
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Josh joined an organisation dedicated to trashing other families, especially those headed by same-sex couples. Now that his family is suddenly under scrutiny, "enough is enough"? Cry me a river.
Funny how they spend their time deriding consensual actions and parents who haven't done anything wrong (and many of whom adopt) while harboring a pedophile. They didn't have any problem with him getting married or having children. I can imagine what they would have said about a gay pedophile who wanted to do the same.
Would you like to offer some commentary?
 
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All of this. I don't see any justice here. It's not like I'm going to go on their Facebook page and leave nasty comments (I agree that "berating" them is pointless and wrong), but I'll certainly never support them.
I think the Statue of limitation is to short in that area, not that I think that would make much of a difference. The victims will never seek justice. They think since he's repentant, he's save and it will never happen again. None of the 5 victims even turned it in. The best justice they can get now, is Josh never doing it again.
And I'm not really sure what it would mean for me to forgive him, anyway. He didn't do anything to me. I don't know him, so I can't know if he's earned forgiveness.
Agreed.
 
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This was not a one time incident. It involved five different girls over a period of time. That's not a single moral failure. Then, we have the moral failing of the parents who not only covered it up, put the blame on the girls (one of which was FOUR), and then continued to allow him access to his victims. Since the parents told the victims the abuse was at least partly their fault, there is no way to know whether it actually stopped or not. It could easily be that they're just so ashamed that they don't say anything.
 
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Moral failure is a rather broad statement. Again, how do we know this is their only moral failure?

I don't think about the Duggars nor care what they do. I don't even know why I am commenting about them. They raised children, like most of us, and everybody is susceptible to moral failures. This topic does not excite me. I never cared to know who they were on television and I still don't care who they are. I hope their kids rise above this to be better people.
 
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(1) Josh Duggar and his wife need to be investigated by child protective services for his own children's sake.

(2) Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar need to be investigated by child protective services for their other children's sake.

(3) If CPS determines that either Josh's children and/or his younger siblings are in danger of sexual abuse or other abuse, they need to be removed from those homes.

And I make no apologies for having a deep disdain for sexual abusers, especially of children, and I certainly won't make excuses for them or for their behavior.
 
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Josh joined an organisation dedicated to trashing other families, especially those headed by same-sex couples. Now that his family is suddenly under scrutiny, "enough is enough"? Cry me a river.

I know. I don't understand why people would want to protect this sexual predator of children in the first place, let alone offer him moral support.
 
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1 What good does it to berate them more?
Pointing out truth is not "berating" them.
2. Do they deserve more punishments?
Just the same as any non-celebrities.
3. How many of us could raise 19 children and only have one failure in the family?
Is a sex offense the only definition of failure? This family is a cult. In that respect one could argue it is one big failure.
 
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There's hypocrisy on both sides here. There is no reason why Duggar's actions shouldn't be scrutinised. Equally, when the bizarre behaviour of someone like Lena Dunham is ignored by liberals, no wonder people think we're being hypocrites.
 
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Equally, when the bizarre behaviour of someone like Lena Dunham is ignored by liberals, no wonder people think we're being hypocrites.
I wouldn't say it was ignored at all, but I have no idea how to quantify the reaction to either scandal.
 
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I wouldn't say it was ignored at all, but I have no idea how to quantify the reaction to either scandal.

They're certainly similar in that a teenage culprit touched their sibling and engaged in sexual behaviour with them (and generally even demonstrating sexual behaviour while in the presence of a minor counts as sexual abuse, even if you don't lay a finger on them).

People are saying Dunham didn't cover anything up. I'm not sure proclaiming your weird predilections in your latest attempt to cash in is much of an improvement.
 
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Josh joined an organisation dedicated to trashing other families, especially those headed by same-sex couples. Now that his family is suddenly under scrutiny, "enough is enough"? Cry me a river.

I won't "cry you a river" but I do hope you can understand my point.
 
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