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<blockquote data-quote="stillsmallvoice" data-source="post: 630694" data-attributes="member: 2572"><p>Hi all!</p><p></p><p>Please allow me to recycle an old post:</p><p></p><p>The Jewish take on dreams varies.</p><p></p><p>Rabbi Jonathan is recorded in the Talmud as saying that, "A person is shown in a dream only what is suggested by his own thoughts." However, the Talmud also records Rabbi Hanina ben Isaac as saying that, "Dreams are a form of prophecy." The Talmud also records a middle view. Rabbi Yohanan quotes Rabbi Shimon Bar Yohai as saying that, "Just as there can be no grain without straw, so can there be no dream without meaningless matters." Our Sages also differentiate between meaningless dreams & meaningful ones.</p><p></p><p>Fasting (from sunup to sundown) after a particularly troubling dream was/is not unknown.</p><p></p><p>If one has had a troubling dream, there is the following prayer:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Look at the account in Genesis 41 of Joseph interpreting Pharoah's dreams. 41:8 tells us, none of Pharaoh's wise men could interpret his dreams. Yet after Joseph's longish interpretation of Pharaoh's dream (41:25-36), it says "and the thing was good in the eyes of Pharaoh." Pharaoh instinctively knew that Joseph's interpretation was correct because the correct interpretation was already there in Pharaoh's subconscious. Joseph merely knew how to draw it out. The wise men did not know this. Pharaoh rejected their proffered interpretations because they didn't jibe with what he sensed, however vaguely, was there in his own subconscious, lurking just beneath the surface.</p><p></p><p>Look further back at Joseph in prison, interpreting the butler's and the baker's dream. How could Joseph tell that the butler would be restored to his position while the baker would not be? The butler (Genesis 40:9-11) dreamt that he actually fulfilled his responsibilities, i.e. he pressed juice from grapes into a cup & gave Pharaoh the cup to drink from. The baker (40:16-17) tried to carry out his responsibilities but was prevented, i.e. the birds ate the baked goodies before he could serve them to Pharaoh. Birds are normally afraid of people, of people who are alive; they are not afraid of corpses. In his dream, the baker was already dead; Joseph understood this. As Joseph informed the butler & the baker beforehand (40:8): "Do not interpretations belong to God?"</p><p></p><p>Comments?</p><p></p><p>Be well!</p><p></p><p>ssv <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/old/wave.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wave:" title="wave :wave:" data-shortname=":wave:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stillsmallvoice, post: 630694, member: 2572"] Hi all! Please allow me to recycle an old post: The Jewish take on dreams varies. Rabbi Jonathan is recorded in the Talmud as saying that, "A person is shown in a dream only what is suggested by his own thoughts." However, the Talmud also records Rabbi Hanina ben Isaac as saying that, "Dreams are a form of prophecy." The Talmud also records a middle view. Rabbi Yohanan quotes Rabbi Shimon Bar Yohai as saying that, "Just as there can be no grain without straw, so can there be no dream without meaningless matters." Our Sages also differentiate between meaningless dreams & meaningful ones. Fasting (from sunup to sundown) after a particularly troubling dream was/is not unknown. If one has had a troubling dream, there is the following prayer: Look at the account in Genesis 41 of Joseph interpreting Pharoah's dreams. 41:8 tells us, none of Pharaoh's wise men could interpret his dreams. Yet after Joseph's longish interpretation of Pharaoh's dream (41:25-36), it says "and the thing was good in the eyes of Pharaoh." Pharaoh instinctively knew that Joseph's interpretation was correct because the correct interpretation was already there in Pharaoh's subconscious. Joseph merely knew how to draw it out. The wise men did not know this. Pharaoh rejected their proffered interpretations because they didn't jibe with what he sensed, however vaguely, was there in his own subconscious, lurking just beneath the surface. Look further back at Joseph in prison, interpreting the butler's and the baker's dream. How could Joseph tell that the butler would be restored to his position while the baker would not be? The butler (Genesis 40:9-11) dreamt that he actually fulfilled his responsibilities, i.e. he pressed juice from grapes into a cup & gave Pharaoh the cup to drink from. The baker (40:16-17) tried to carry out his responsibilities but was prevented, i.e. the birds ate the baked goodies before he could serve them to Pharaoh. Birds are normally afraid of people, of people who are alive; they are not afraid of corpses. In his dream, the baker was already dead; Joseph understood this. As Joseph informed the butler & the baker beforehand (40:8): "Do not interpretations belong to God?" Comments? Be well! ssv :wave: [/QUOTE]
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