Draft on The Sneak

SongEsther7 · Jun 3, 2004

There is now pending legislation House and Senate, twin bills,SB89 and HR163 being quietly worked through to start the draft of men and women ages 18 to 26 years old as early as Spring 2005.Please pray that these bills will not go through.This administration is trying to get them passed before the next Presidential election, thinking that the public will not be aware of what they're doing. The enemy is after the holy seed.Thank you for your time.

Esther Johnson EsthJoh@aol.com

Sybaris · Jun 3, 2004

It must not be so quiet if you know about it.

Always, always check your Snopes

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/draft.asp

mikie8 · Jun 6, 2004

its been on the cards for at least two years if you have watched the news closly .
dick cheny said america will go to war with 40-50 countries . a draft is the only way this is possible

desi · Jun 6, 2004

mikie8 said:
its been on the cards for at least two years if you have watched the news closly .
dick cheny said america will go to war with 40-50 countries . a draft is the only way this is possible

Sure Cheney did... then you woke up. America is not going to start a draft as soldiers and Marines are reenlisting in record rates, our fighting men and women love a challenge!

mikie8 · Jun 6, 2004

please theres no need to be rude .

im not asleep or dreaming just reading the news as any intelligent person may do on a sunday morning

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4301152,00.html

american military are considering extending active duty times and a draft for 18-26 year olds .

http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,FL_draft_050704,00.html

Beau · Jun 6, 2004

sorry about the rudeness, mr. I have no background.

And what's wrong with the draft? Other than there is no need for one, as Desi said, we have more and more people being patriotic and singing up all the time. and if it weren't for the fact that I am planning on going in as an officer, and not an enlisted, I would be the first person at the booth when the draft came out. They wouldn't need to send me a letter, other then maybe directions to the nearest booth!

Beau · Jun 6, 2004

And the next war we get into will be with Red China, in the Year of 2010, unless China repents, but I have said this before.

mikie8 · Jun 6, 2004

i never said there was anything wrong with a draft .

I douht america will war china as president bush seems to have a good relationship with china atm .

Beau · Jun 6, 2004

Yeah, but Bush will no longer be president in 2010, and as America is an overall righteous nation, even with it's blemishes, God will continue to use her and protect her, and befriend her as she befriends Israel.

LordsRanger · Jun 7, 2004

SongEsther7 said:
There is now pending legislation House and Senate, twin bills,SB89 and HR163 being quietly worked through to start the draft of men and women ages 18 to 26 years old as early as Spring 2005.Please pray that these bills will not go through.This administration is trying to get them passed before the next Presidential election, thinking that the public will not be aware of what they're doing. The enemy is after the holy seed.Thank you for your time.

Esther Johnson EsthJoh@aol.com

I am certainly not against it for four reasons:

1) Kim Jong-Il is a certifiable lunatic. With our dwindling military and resources for GWOT, it would not be unexpected for him to try something stupid, like provoke or wage nuclear war against the U.S. We need to keep a surplus of troops.

2) If Kim Jong-Il tries something stupid, it is unlikely however possible that China will try to take back Taiwan while we are occupied with the DPRK.

3) In case Iran tries something stupid.

4) We need to continue GWOT

I have no problem with the draft. I believe it is needed, however, I trust the decisions of the DoD and Congress.

Gunny · Jun 7, 2004

SongEsther7 said:
The enemy is after the holy seed.

The enemy is Islamic extremist terrorists who serve a false religion and a false god.

The threat is global and it is very real.

Draft or no draft this situation is not going away anytime soon.

lister4ever · Jun 7, 2004

Technically speaking Islam serves the same "God" as christianity, they simply choose to believe that Christ was not the son of god, and the the messiah is yet to come.
However, your point about Extremist fundamentalists is true, they are much more of a threat than China or any other significant nation, since they have nothing to lose. China will never start a war with America, they have far too much to lose, it is simple economic and political viability.
Extremist Fundamentalists of ANY flavour are dangerous, it is not their religion that ultimatly causes the problem, it is their interperetation of it and their methods of carrying out their percieved duties that are the problem. Christianity went through a stage of fundamentalism, and in fact is still going through it in some places. Anyone remember the Inquisition? Or for that matter the holocaust, its always easy to forget that the Nazis believed that the destruction of the Jews was Gods will.

tintexas · Jun 7, 2004

lister4ever said:
Technically speaking Islam serves the same "God" as christianity, they simply choose to believe that Christ was not the son of god, and the the messiah is yet to come.

I disagree.

"Allah" and Jehovah God are not the same.

To deny Christ's deity is to deny God the father, since they are one in the same.

Christ is not only the son of God, but is God.

LordsRanger · Jun 7, 2004

tintexas said:
I disagree.

"Allah" and Jehovah God are not the same.

To deny Christ's deity is to deny God the father, since they are one in the same.

Christ is not only the son of God, but is God.

Yes ma'am

Beau · Jun 7, 2004

I am certainly not against it for four reasons:

1) Kim Jong-Il is a certifiable lunatic. With our dwindling military and resources for GWOT, it would not be unexpected for him to try something stupid, like provoke or wage nuclear war against the U.S. We need to keep a surplus of troops.

2) If Kim Jong-Il tries something stupid, it is unlikely however possible that China will try to take back Taiwan while we are occupied with the DPRK.

3) In case Iran tries something stupid.

4) We need to continue GWOT

I have no problem with the draft. I believe it is needed, however, I trust the decisions of the DoD and Congress.

Ok, you lost me at the acronyms....

And I said in 2010ad, which is in six years, which means we will have had two presidential elections, and in six years anything can and might happen.

inquisitor_11 · Jun 8, 2004

Why is it that western countries are the targets of islamic extremists? Why are these people able to find support so easily?

inquisitor_11 · Jun 8, 2004

Beau said:
Yeah, but Bush will no longer be president in 2010, and as America is an overall righteous nation, even with it's blemishes, God will continue to use her and protect her, and befriend her as she befriends Israel.

I don't remember reading that in the bible.

lister4ever · Jun 8, 2004

Just because they do not share the same name does not mean they are not based on the same figure. The three monotheisms (Christianity, Judaism and Islam) are very closely related and share many common ideas and beliefs.

The west is the target because it is the focus of wealth. It is easy to inspire poor, un-educated and very religious masses to hate the largely secular and rich society that is prevalent in the west. Also the cultural standards that are more and more common in the wealthy nations in the eyes of any religious fundamentalist go against God (whatever name they call him) and thus the people who follow those standards naturally become targets for extremism. It is easy to justify the killing of the wealthy and decadent when you yourself are poor and forced to live humbly.

mikie8 · Jun 8, 2004

interesting posts

jews are waiting for the messiah to arrive and save them.

christians beleive jesus is the messiah and they are saved through him

muslims believe mohammad is the messiah and they are saved through him

same GOD different name .

All this talk of extreme fundimentalists makes me smile .As america is seen as a christian fundamentalist country by many . A president that talks to god ????
Two wars and osama is still safe .how is this possible ?
Americans breaking the geneva convention in iraq and afganistan and human rights violated by troops , Is this the gods will that is mentioned ?
The west is the target ?????
whos killing who ? the east is the target as christian fundys want more wealth and more power
Its easy to inspire rich un-educated and very religious masses to hate a peaceful ,poorer society that is prevalent in the east .
Also the cultural standards that are more and more common in the poorer nations in the eyes of any religious fundamentalist go against God (whatever name you call him) and thus the people who follow those standards naturally become targets for extremism.
The east is the target because of its mineral wealth .

when did america first say it would use military force against afganistan ?

after the 9/11 attacks ? NO

2001 at a g8 summit america said we will place our oil line trough your country or we will consider using military force .

MSBS · Jun 8, 2004

SongEsther7 said:
There is now pending legislation House and Senate, twin bills,SB89 and HR163 being quietly worked through to start the draft of men and women ages 18 to 26 years old as early as Spring 2005.Please pray that these bills will not go through.This administration is trying to get them passed before the next Presidential election, thinking that the public will not be aware of what they're doing. The enemy is after the holy seed.Thank you for your time.

Esther Johnson EsthJoh@aol.com

Yawn. The sponsors of these bills are all Democrats.

House Bill:

Neil Abercrombie (Democrat) Hawaii
Charles Rangle (Democrat) New York
Jim McDermott (Democrat) Washington
John Conyers (Democrat) Michigan
John Lewis (Democrat) Georgia
Pete Stark (Democrat) California

Senate Bill Sponsor:

Ernest Hollings (Democrat) South Carolina

Look them up:

HR 163 and S 89

The administration has publicly stated they oppose these bills and the pentagon doesn't want a draft either.

http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,FL_draft_060104,00.html

really, can't you bother to do a 5 second google search and see what this stuff is really about?

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