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Reread my posts and the article. You know very well I was speaking of evolution "theory" in general with the quote you're responding to- and I still see no evidence from you.notto said:So there are doors in the firmament that let the rain in and storehouses of snow in the firmament?
What part did I skip? I felt that my response was rather exhaustive.Dutchunter said:Troodon...next time just respond to what I'm saying
What better way to give it a thorough thrashing than to respond in a clear, linear fashion?instead of picking it apart sentence by sentence.
And you are doing such a good job discussing themI realize there's so much evidence for your side that you don't have room to post it all
No they have not. If they have perhaps you had better tell us how they have been refuted; else we are in the dark.(those links/"evidence" have been refuted.
Or you could tell us in your own words.Would you like me to post every link to every case made against evolution by AIG and others?)
You said: "you have the same beliefs as "non-believers". Not "you have the same belief regarding the creation of the diversity of life on the planet as "non-believers". My apologies for your statement being ambiguous.But I have to respond to your claim of me violating rule #1. As I said in the SAME SENTENCE
I'm the desparate one whereas you are forced to wave off all evidence presented by claiming AiG has dealt with it when you yourself have presented no evidence that this is the case.(shows how desperate you are)
You can find some on that Dino-Bird Transitions link.Now go back to finding all those missing links for us
Again all you are providing is empty rhetoric; even AiG does a better job. At least they have the guts to present false evidence.I hate to have to remind people.....evolution is a THEORY- demonstrated over and over to be wrong!
I haven't the slightest clue what you are trying to say here.A "theory" that actually tests to work- THE bomb- duh..........
I was responding to his statement on CREATION:Vance said:No, you said there is no physical evidence which contradicts a literal reading of Scripture. He is pointing out one example of how what we know from science contradicts a literal reading of Scripture. Of course, it does not contradict Scripture itself, just the literal reading of it.
Please learn how science works before saying anything like that again, it will avoid embarassment.Dutchunter said:Troodon....I'm not going to waste my time with someone who goes sentence by sentence and can't even figure out how obvious a difference there is between a theory proven to work- The A-bomb- and one that is still a theory not proven- evolution.
Of course it's a theory, it will always be a theory, just like gravity is a theory and germs are a theory.Dutchunter said:So you found the missing link? Other evidence? It's no longer a theory?
The point is that Atomic theory is still a theory as well. The bomb is evidence that is is correct just like the several independent lines of evidence point to evolution being correct.Dutchunter said:So you found the missing link? Other evidence? It's no longer a theory?
Vance...I notice you skip over reponses to yourself and jump on my responses to other. Force of habit?Vance said:Man oh man, you really don't get it. Please, please go and learn what a theory is versus a fact. We had to explain this to someone else just a couple of days ago. Can someone pull that discussion and link it for Dutch's edification?
As for the missing link, what would expect to find? What would qualify as a missing link for you?
Theories are either valid or invalid and they cannot be proven, only disproven.Dutchunter said:Wrong....my whole point was that the Atomic one HAS been proven.....evolution has NOT. Already responded to the theory question in the other thread.
I do get it. Evolution is not fact. There is plenty of evidence that falsifies evolution- and I'm not just talking about frauds. YEC "theory" has not been falsified. Why don't you try to back up the skull- human evolution theory- first?Vance said:No, you still do not get it. The evidence we have supports the theory of evolution. There has been no evidence that falsifies evolution. Just like gravity (actually more so, since the theory of gravity is being challenged as we speak).
And, yes, every YEC theory has been falsified already, they just won't admit it or present the falsifying evidence. A young earth has been falsified, a global flood has been falsified, every theory they come up with to argue for a young earth or against evolution has been shown to be false. That is all set out in minute detail dozens of places, including the science forum.
Go ahead, present your favorite AIG theory.
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