Down under the law

[Cribstyl]

There are several perspectives about what it means to be under the law.
One perspective is that Jesus came under the law.

Gal 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
Gal 4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

Two questions:
1 What does it mean that Jesus was made under the law?
2 What does it mean to redeem them that were under the law?

 

[Soyeong]

There are several perspectives about what it means to be under the law.
One perspective is that Jesus came under the law.

Gal 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
Gal 4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

Two questions:
1 What does it mean that Jesus was made under the law?
2 What does it mean to redeem them that were under the law?

1.) To be under the law means to be obligated to obey it.

2.) In Galatians 4:5, it does not say what those under the law needed to be redeemed from, only that Jesus was sent to redeem those under the law. God's law is holy, righteous, and good, and was graciously given as a precious gift for our own good in order to bless us and teach us about who God is, how to walk in His ways, and how to grow in a relationship with Him, so those under the law have no need to be redeemed from the law, but rather we had the need to be redeemed from our lawlessness. In Titus 2:14, it does not say that Jesus gave himself to redeem us from the law, but in order to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good work, so if we believe in what he accomplished on the cross, then we will become zealous for doing good works in obedience to God's law (Acts 21:20) and will not return to the lawlessness that Jesus gave himself to redeem us from.

 

[BobRyan]

There are several perspectives about what it means to be under the law.

Paul gives one in Rom 3:19-23
19 Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God; 20 because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin.

Justification by Faith
21 But now apart from the Law the righteousness of God has been manifested, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, 22 even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe; for there is no distinction; 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,


There we see that ALL mankind in both OT and NT - are condemned by that same moral law of God that defines what sin is...Christ is the sinless one that under that same set of conditions is not condemned at all .. being sinless. But all the rest of the world still under that same set of conditions is condemned under the law - apart from faith and grace. So then all NEED the gospel

No exceptions.

Still to this very day.

And so then ALL need the Gospel -- both OT and NT -- no exceptions.

That is the "ONE Gospel" of Gal 1:6-9

The Gospel that was "preached to Abraham" Gal 3:8

The Gospel that was "preached to us just as it was to THEM also" Heb 4:2
2 For indeed the gospel was preached to us as well as to them; -- NKJV

The gospel that resulted in Elijah and Moses standing WITH Christ in glory before the cross... in Matthew 17

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Interesting that the same questions are asked here year after year - and the same answers are given here year after year.

 

[Word and Spirit]

1.) To be under the law means to be obligated to obey it.

2.) In Galatians 4:5, it does not say what those under the law needed to be redeemed from, only that Jesus was sent to redeem those under the law. God's law is holy, righteous, and good, and was graciously given as a precious gift for our own good in order to bless us and teach us about who God is, how to walk in His ways, and how to grow in a relationship with Him, so those under the law have no need to be redeemed from the law, but rather we had the need to be redeemed from our lawlessness. In Titus 2:14, it does not say that Jesus gave himself to redeem us from the law, but in order to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good work, so if we believe in what he accomplished on the cross, then we will become zealous for doing good works in obedience to God's law (Acts 21:20) and will not return to the lawlessness that Jesus gave himself to redeem us from.

Yes, Jesus came to free us from sin, the reason for the Law in the first place. He then gives us His Spirit to walk in. He who walks by the Spirit is free from the Old Covenant Law, called the ministry of death. Walking in the Spirit fulfills the righteous requirements of the Law fully through love, called the ministry of the Spirit.

Galatians 3:
19 What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made.

 

[BobRyan]

Yes, Jesus came to free us from sin, the reason for the Law in the first place. He then gives us His Spirit to walk in. He who walks by the Spirit is free from the Old Covenant Law, called the ministry of death. Walking in the Spirit fulfills the righteous requirements of the Law fully through love, called the ministry of the Spirit.

replacing the old Covenant "obey and live" with the New Covenant of "saved by grace through faith" is the ONE and only Gospel Gal 1:6-9... preached to Abraham Gal 3:8

 

[Word and Spirit]

replacing the old Covenant "obey and live" with the New Covenant of "saved by grace through faith" is the ONE and only Gospel Gal 1:6-9... preached to Abraham Gal 3:8

Galatians 3:19
19 What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made

 

[Soyeong]

Yes, Jesus came to free us from sin, the reason for the Law in the first place. He then gives us His Spirit to walk in. He who walks by the Spirit is free from the Old Covenant Law, called the ministry of death. Walking in the Spirit fulfills the righteous requirements of the Law fully through love, called the ministry of the Spirit.

God's law we given to reveal what sin is, not to free us from sin, and it is absurd to think that the Spirit leads us to live in sin. Rather, the Spirit has the role of leading us to obey God's law (Ezekiel 36:26-27), the Spirit has the role of leading us in truth (John 16:3), and God's law is truth (Psalms 119:142). Jesus set a sinless example of how to walk in obedience to the Mosaic Law, so he is the personification of the truth (John 14:6). In 2 Timothy 3:8, those who oppose Moses also oppose the truth, being of corrupted minds and disqualified in regard to the faith. In Romans 7:25-8:2, Paul equated the Mosaic Law with the Law of the Spirit by contrasting them both with the law of sin and dead. In Romans 8:3-4, Jesus set us free from sin so that we might be free to obey God's law and meet its righteous requirement. In Romans 8:4-7, those who walk in the Spirit are contrasted with those who have carnal minds, who refuse to submit to God's law. In Galatians 5:19-22, everything listed as carnal works that are against the Spirit are also against the Mosaic Law, while all of the fruits of the Spirit are in accordance with it.

The fact that the Mosaic Law brings death to those who refuse to submit to it is not a very good reason for you to argue in favor of doing that.

Galatians 3:
19 What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made.

If you agree that God's law was given to reveal what sin is and that we should refrain from doing what God has revealed to be sin, then you should agree that we should obey God's law. The law leads us to Christ because everything in it teaches us about who he is, how to walk as he walked, and how to grow in a relationship with him, but does not lead us to Christ so that we can reject what he taught and God back to living in sin. The promise is of one who would redeem us from our sin, not of what who would free us to sin.

 

[BobRyan]

Galatians 3:19
19 What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made

For the lost it condemns.

For the saved "it is written on heart and mind" thus it is still a sin - even for Christians -- to take God's name in vain.

Rom 3:31 "Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law".

Rom 8:4-11 only the lost are in the condition where they "do not submit to the Law of God neither indeed CAN they"

 

[Word and Spirit]

God's law we given to reveal what sin is, not to free us from sin, and it is absurd to think that the Spirit leads us to live in sin. Rather, the Spirit has the role of leading us to obey God's law (Ezekiel 36:26-27), the Spirit has the role of leading us in truth (John 16:3), and God's law is truth (Psalms 119:142). Jesus set a sinless example of how to walk in obedience to the Mosaic Law, so he is the personification of the truth (John 14:6). In 2 Timothy 3:8, those who oppose Moses also oppose the truth, being of corrupted minds and disqualified in regard to the faith. In Romans 7:25-8:2, Paul equated the Mosaic Law with the Law of the Spirit by contrasting them both with the law of sin and dead. In Romans 8:3-4, Jesus set us free from sin so that we might be free to obey God's law and meet its righteous requirement. In Romans 8:4-7, those who walk in the Spirit are contrasted with those who have carnal minds, who refuse to submit to God's law. In Galatians 5:19-22, everything listed as carnal works that are against the Spirit are also against the Mosaic Law, while all of the fruits of the Spirit are in accordance with it.

The fact that the Mosaic Law brings death to those who refuse to submit to it is not a very good reason for you to argue in favor of doing that.



If you agree that God's law was given to reveal what sin is and that we should refrain from doing what God has revealed to be sin, then you should agree that we should obey God's law. The law leads us to Christ because everything in it teaches us about who he is, how to walk as he walked, and how to grow in a relationship with him, but does not lead us to Christ so that we can reject what he taught and God back to living in sin. The promise is of one who would redeem us from our sin, not of what who would free us to sin.

John 8:32-36 What does Jesus free us from?
1 John 3:5 What does Jesus take away?

 

[Word and Spirit]

For the lost it condemns.

For the saved "it is written on heart and mind" thus it is still a sin - even for Christians -- to take God's name in vain.

Rom 3:31 "Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law".

Rom 8:4-11 only the lost are in the condition where they "do not submit to the Law of God neither indeed CAN they"

I'm not sure you understand. Because Jesus took away our sin, Christians by our new nature of the Spirit naturally honor God's name, and would never take His name in vain. We cannot sin, thus we establish the eternal laws of God.

 

[Soyeong]

John 8:32-36 What does Jesus free us from?
1 John 3:5 What does Jesus take away?

In John 8:32-26, Jesus frees us from sin, which is living in transgression of God's law so that we can be free to live in obedience to it.

In 1 John 3:4-6, sin is defined as the transgression of God's law, Jesus appeared to take away sin, and those who continue to practice sin in transgression of God's law have neither seen or known him.

 

[BobRyan]

I'm not sure you understand. Because Jesus took away our sin, Christians by our new nature of the Spirit naturally honor God's name, and would never take His name in vain. We cannot sin, thus we establish the eternal laws of God.

The "we cannot sin" argument is missing from 1 Cor 6 --
7 Now therefore, it is already an utter failure for you that you go to law against one another. Why do you not rather accept wrong? Why do you not rather let yourselves be cheated? 8 No, you yourselves do wrong and cheat, and you do these things to your brethren! 9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God

Under the NEW Covenant "WHAT matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God" 1 Cor 7:19

Under the NEW Covenant God's LAW is written on the heart Jer 31:31-34

under the NEW Covenant "the saints KEEP the commandments of GOD AND their faith in Jesus" Rev 14:12

under the NEW covenant saints are Commanded to keep the Law (as in James 2 and in Eph 6:1-2)

 

[Word and Spirit]

In John 8:32-26, Jesus frees us from sin, which is living in transgression of God's law.

In 1 John 3:4-6, sin is defined as the transgression of God's law, Jesus appeared to take away sin, and those who continue to practice sin in transgression of God's law have neither seen or known him.

The Ten Commandments was the ministry of death. That was the Old Covenant that we had to keep contrary to our sinful nature. Thus we were prone to break it.

Jesus gave us the Law of the Spirit, which frees us from the ministry of death. By the Spirit we are given a new nature that has the righteous requirements of the law written on our hearts so that we by our new nature naturally keep them. Thus we are prone to keep them.

 

[Soyeong]

The Ten Commandments was the ministry of death. That was the Old Covenant that we had to keep contrary to our sinful nature. Thus we were prone to break it.

Again, the fact that refusing to submit to God's law brings death is not a very good reason to refuse to submit to it.

Jesus gave us the Law of the Spirit, which frees us from the ministry of death. By the Spirit we are given a new nature that has the righteous requirements of the law written on our hearts so that we by our new nature naturally keep them. Thus we are prone to keep them.

God is not in disagreement with himself about which laws we should follow, so the Law of Christ is the same as the Law of the Spirit and the Law of the Father, which was given to Moses. It wouldn't make any sense to think that the Spirit leads us to rebel against what the Father has commanded, especially when the Spirit has the role of leading us to obey His law (Ezekiel 36:26-27). Jesus is the exact expression of God's nature (Hebrews 1:3), so he expressed the divine nature through his actions and what that looked like was obedience to the Mosaic Law, so that is also what it looks like when we partake in the divine nature.

 

[Word and Spirit]

The "we cannot sin" argument is missing from 1 Cor 6 --
7 Now therefore, it is already an utter failure for you that you go to law against one another. Why do you not rather accept wrong? Why do you not rather let yourselves be cheated? 8 No, you yourselves do wrong and cheat, and you do these things to your brethren! 9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God

Under the NEW Covenant "WHAT matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God" 1 Cor 7:19

Under the NEW Covenant God's LAW is written on the heart Jer 31:31-34

under the NEW Covenant "the saints KEEP the commandments of GOD AND their faith in Jesus" Rev 14:12

under the NEW covenant saints are Commanded to keep the Law (as in James 2 and in Eph 6:1-2)

The Corinthians were not living right and needed to repent in the first letter.

In the second letter Paul says of them.

2 Corinthians 7:
9 Now I rejoice, not that you were made sorry, but that your sorrow led to repentance. For you were made sorry in a godly manner, that you might suffer loss from us in nothing. 10 For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation, not to be regretted.

You are misreading James 2 and not reading far enough, and Revelation 14 commandments are 1 John 3:23.

James 2 the New Covenant is the Law of Liberty, not the law of the Old Covenant
12 So speak and so do as those who will be judged by the law of liberty. 13 For judgment is without mercy to the one who has shown no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment.

 

[HARK!]

"Under the law"

Paul is the only one in the Bible who uses this phrase.

It's found 11 times in his writings.

Romans 3:19
(CLV) Ro 3:19
Now we are aware that, whatever the law is saying, it is speaking to those under the law, that every mouth may be barred, and the entire world may become subject to the just verdict of God,

Let's look at this very carefully. The law speaks to those under the law.

The law speaks so that every mouth in the entire world may become subject to YHWH's judgement.

As all are subject to YHWH's verdict; it appears that we have two groups here. One group is already subject to YHWH's judgement. The other would not be subject to YHWH's judgement in absence of his Torah.

The preceding verse serves to further define the behavior of those who are under the law:

(CLV) Ro 3:18
There is not fear of God in front of their eyes.

Why would we fear our loving Abba?

(CLV) Ex 20:20
Then Moses said to the people: Do not fear, for in order to probe you the One, Elohim has come, and in order that the fear of Him should come over your faces, that you may not sin.

What is sin?

(CLV) 1Jn 3:4
Everyone who is doing sin is doing lawlessness also, and sin is lawlessness.

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(CLV) Ro 6:14
For Sin shall not be lording it over you, for you are not under law, but under grace.

Which law?

Paul mentions at least 8 of them in this letter:

The Law of Faith (Ch 3)
A Different Law (Ch 7)
The Law of My Mind (Ch 7)
The Law of Sin (Sin's Law) (Ch 7)
God's Law (Ch 7)
The Spirit's Law of Life (Ch 8)
The Law of Sin and Death (Ch 8)
The Law of Righteousness (Ch 9)

I suppose that if sin is lording over you; then you are under The Law of Sin.

(CLV) Ro 6:15
What then? Should we be sinning, seeing that we are not under law, but under grace? May it not be coming to that!

Paul is telling us in no uncertain terms that we may not sin.

What is sin?

(CLV) 1Jn 3:4
Everyone who is doing sin is doing lawlessness also, and sin is lawlessness.

(CLV) Ro 7:7
What, then, shall we declare? That the law is sin? May it not be coming to that! But sin I knew not except through law. For besides, I had not been aware of coveting except the law said, "You shall not be coveting."

Surely The Law of Sin doesn't prohibit coveting.

The Law of YHWH does.
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(CLV) 1Co 9:20
And I became to the Jews as a Jew, that I should be gaining Jews; to those under (υπο) law (νομονas) under (υπο)law (νομονas) (not being myself under (υπο) law (νομονas) ), that I should be gaining those under (υπο) law (νομονas) ;


The Judaeans we're well familiar with YHWH's Law (Torah), but they were also practicing Works of Law.

I don't see "Works of Law" mentioned in the Torah. I don't see any mention of it by Yahshua. Where is Paul getting this?

It is mentioned 1 time in Romans and 6 times in Galatians.

It is also mentioned in the Qumran Scrolls.

Q394 (4QMMTa) 4QHalakhic Letter
Dead Sea Scrolls Project: 4QMMT

Definition of halacha
: the body of Jewish law supplementing the scriptural law and forming especially the legal part of the Talmud
Definition of HALACHA

Yahshua rebuked putting the traditions of men over the Torah.



(CLV) 1Co 9:21
to those without law as without law (not being without God's law, but legally (εννομος) Christ's), that I should be gaining those without law.

"Not being without," is a double negative. Paul is with YHWH's Law.


(CLV) 1Co 9:22
I became as weak to the weak, that I should be gaining the weak. To all have I become all, that I should undoubtedly be saving some.

Apart from the Judaeans the nations didn't even have the Torah
That said, just a few verses prior in this letter; Paul makes mention of the Torah:

Some misunderstand this passage.Paul was not a lawless crowd pleaser.

(CLV) Ga 1:10
For, at present, am I persuading men or God? Or am I seeking to please men? If I still pleased men, I were not a slave of Christ.

Acts 17:22-31 is an example of how Paul would put this behavior into practice.


(CLV) 1Co 9:
9 For in the law of Moses it is written: "You shall not muzzle the threshing ox.Not for oxen is the care of God!" 10 Or is He undoubtedly saying it because of us? Because of us, for it was written that the plower ought to be plowing in expectation, and the thresher to partake of his expectation."

HE'S SAYING THAT THE TORAH WAS WRITTEN BECAUSE OF US?


(CLV) 1Co 11:1
Become imitators of me, according as I also am of Christ.

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(CLV) Ga 3:19
What, then, is the law? On behalf of transgressions was it added, until the Seed should come to Whom He has promised, being prescribed through messengers in the hand of a mediator.

What law was added to what? Transgressions of what? Abraham had the law. The penal code for the land of Israel was added. Levitical priesthood was added. After the Seed (Yahshua) came; the Judaeans were exiled from the land, for rejecting YHWH's word in the flesh. The High Priesthood was transferred to Yahshua; as it is written.

(CLV) Ga 3:20
Now there is no Mediator of one. Yet God is One.

(CLV) Ga 3:21
Is the law, then, against the promises of God? May it not be coming to that! For if a law were given that is |able to vivify, really, righteousness were out of law.

YHWH's law is not against grace.

(CLV) Ga 3:22
But the scripture locks up all together under sin,

...because all have sinned.

The Law of Sin

that the promise out of Jesus Christ's faith may be given to those who are believing.

(CLV) Gn 15:6
Now Abram believed on Elohim, and He reckoned it to him for righteousness

(CLV) Gn 26:5
inasmuch as your father Abraham hearkened to My voice and kept My charge, My instructions, My statutes and My laws.

(CLV) Ja 2:22
You are observing that faith worked together with his works, and by works was faith perfected.

(CLV) Ja 2:23
And fulfilled was the scripture which is saying, Now "Abraham believes God, and it is reckoned to him for righteousness," and he was called "the friend of God."

(CLV) Ja 2:24
You see that by works a man is being justified, and not by faith only.

Obedience to YHWH's Law is the fruit of faith.

(CLV) Ga 3:23
Now before the coming of faith we were garrisoned under law, being locked together for the faith about to be revealed.

If we actually believe Yahshua; we will follow his example of obedience.


(CLV) Ja 2:14
What is the benefit, my brethren, if anyone should be saying he has faith, yet may have no works? That faith can not save him.

(CLV) Ja 2:22
You are observing that faith worked together with his works, and by works was faith perfected
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(CLV) Ga 4:4
Now when the full time came, God delegates His Son, come of a woman, come under law,

(CLV) Ga 4:5
that He should be reclaiming those under law, that we may be getting the place of a son.

Reclaiming them from what?

Paul makes it clear that those who are under the law, are those who have broken the law:

(CLV) Ro 1:5
through Whom we obtained grace and apostleship for faith-obedience among all the nations, for His name's sake,

(CLV) Ro 2:13
For not the listeners to law are just with God, but the doers of law shall be justified.
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(CLV) Ga 4:21
Tell me, you who want to be under law, are you not hearing the law?

Paul is asking why you would want to sin, knowing what YHWH's judgements will be.

(CLV) Ro 2:13
For not the listeners to law are just with God, but the doers of law shall be justified.
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(CLV) Ga 5:18
Now, if you are led by spirit, you are not still under law.

How can you break YHWH's laws being led by the spirit?

Let's look at this verse in a little more context.

(CLV) Ga 5:16
Now I am saying, Walk in spirit, and you should under no circumstances be consummating the lust of the flesh.

What is the lust of the flesh?

Here are some examples:

(CLV) Ga 5:19
Now apparent are the works of the flesh, which are adultery, prostitution, uncleanness, wantonness,

(CLV) Ga 5:20
idolatry, enchantment, enmities, strife, jealousies, furies, factions, dissensions, sects,

(CLV) Ga 5:21
envies, murders, drunkennesses, revelries, and the like of these, which, I am predicting to you, according as I predicted also, that those committing such things shall not be enjoying the allotment of the kingdom of God.


Yahshua set an example of how for us to behave in a way that is in the Father's will.

(CLV) Ro 8:29
that, whom He foreknew, He designates beforehand, also, to be conformed to the image of His Son, for Him to be Firstborn among many brethren.

(CLV) Jn 16:7
"But I am telling you the truth. It is expedient for you that I may be coming away, for if I should not be coming away, the consoler will not be coming to you. Now if I should be gone, I will send him to you.

(CLV) Jn 16:8
And, coming, that will be exposing the world concerning sin and concerning
righteousness and concerning judging:

(CLV) Jn 16:9
concerning sin, indeed, seeing that they are not believing in Me;

(CLV) 1Co 11:1
Become imitators of me, according as I also am of Christ.

 

[Word and Spirit]

Again, the fact that refusing to submit to God's law brings death is not a very good reason to refuse to submit to it.

God is not in disagreement with himself about which laws we should follow, so the Law of Christ is the same as the Law of the Spirit and the Law of the Father, which was given to Moses. It wouldn't make any sense to think that the Spirit leads us to rebel against what the Father has commanded, especially when the Spirit has the role of leading us to obey His law (Ezekiel 36:26-27). Jesus is the exact expression of God's nature (Hebrews 1:3), so he expressed the divine nature through his actions and what that looked like was obedience to the Mosaic Law, so that is also what it looks like when we partaken in the divine nature.

The Ten Commandments are passing away. The Law of the Spirit is much more glorious.

2 Corinthians 3:7-11
7 But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away, 8 how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious? 9 For if the ministry of condemnation had glory, the ministry of righteousness exceeds much more in glory. 10 For even what was made glorious had no glory in this respect, because of the glory that excels. 11 For if what is passing away was glorious, what remains is much more glorious.

The Ten Commandments had to be kept by sinful flesh, thus are represented by Ishmael - Abraham's son of the flesh. Jesus is the promised Seed of Abraham, and His commandments of loving one another and believing in Him is represented by Abrahams promised son, Isaac. Galatians 4:22-31

21 Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law? 22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons: the one by a bondwoman, the other by a freewoman. 23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, and he of the freewoman through promise, 24 which things are symbolic. For these are the two covenants: the one from Mount Sinai which gives birth to bondage, which is Hagar— 25 for this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children— 26 but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all. 27 For it is written:

“Rejoice, O barren,
You who do not bear!
Break forth and shout,
You who are not in labor!
For the desolate has many more children
Than she who has a husband.”

28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are children of promise. 29 But, as he who was born according to the flesh then persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, even so it is now. 30 Nevertheless what does the Scripture say? “Cast out the bondwoman and her son, for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.” 31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman but of the free.

The true "commandments of God" are to LOVE God with all your strength, mind and body and to LOVE your neighbor as yourself. Do this and you won't have to be taught what NOT TO DO. Love and you are not under the law.

 

[HARK!]

Hi Word and Spirit,

WELCOME TO CF!

2 Corinthians 7:
9 Now I rejoice, not that you were made sorry, but that your sorrow led to repentance. For you were made sorry in a godly manner, that you might suffer loss from us in nothing. 10 For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation, not to be regretted.

Repentance from what?

James 2 the New Covenant is the Law of Liberty, not the law of the Old Covenant
12 So speak and so do as those who will be judged by the law of liberty. 13 For judgment is without mercy to the one who has shown no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment.

Psalm 119
44 So shall I keep Your law continually, Forever and ever.
45 And I will walk at liberty,For I seek Your precepts.

 

[HARK!]

The Ten Commandments are passing away.

(CLV) Lk 16:17
Yet it is easier for heaven and earth to pass by than for one serif of the law to fall.

 

[HARK!]

The true "commandments of God" are to LOVE God with all your strength, mind and body and to LOVE your neighbor as yourself. Do this and you won't have to be taught what NOT TO DO. Love and you are not under the law.

John 14:21
Whoever has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me. The one who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and reveal Myself to him."

John 14:23
Jesus replied, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make Our home with him.

John 15:10
If you keep My commandments, you will remain in My love, just as I have kept My Father's commandments and remain in His love.

1 John 2:3
By this we can be sure that we have come to know Him: if we keep His commandments.

1 John 5:3
For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome,

2 John 1:6
And this is love, that we walk according to His commandments. This is the very commandment you have heard from the beginning, that you must walk in love.