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Doubts about Toumai
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I'm shocked. Deeply. Science seems to be studying the claims. Good lord! Those zany scientists seem to be questioning everything.
Don't they know the rules? *snort*. If it turns out to fit elsewhere on the hominid path, then I'm sure the fact that scientists sorted it out will be lost, same as with Archaoraptor.
Don't they know the rules? *snort*. If it turns out to fit elsewhere on the hominid path, then I'm sure the fact that scientists sorted it out will be lost, same as with Archaoraptor.
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I think you're missing the point...
The point is that common ancestry is a matter of interpretation, not evidence. The evidence (the fossils) is real, but whether or not they point to ANY common ancestry, let alone common ancestry of hominids, is entirely a matter of IMAGINATION and INTERPRETATION.
In other words, you ain't got squat.
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Yeah. And pseudogenes are chopped liver. Ditto viral insertions.
Keep trying, Nick.
Keep trying, Nick.
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Please name one science that does not require us to interpret evidence and imagine explanations.
Chemistry:
Mix A with B and get C. Interpret evidence to determine what causes C to be produced.
Astronomy:
Look at sky and see strange object X. Intepret evidence to determine nature and origin of X.
Geology:
Observe interesting geological feature Z. Interpret evidence to determine processes and forces that created Z.
Physics:
Observe behavior of electric current in material Y. Interpret evidence to deduce natural laws that cause said behavior.
Physics:
Observe velocity of objects rolling down inclined plane. Interpret evidence to determine law of gravity.
Without interpretation and imagination, science ends up being nothing more than meaningless data.
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Almost all of them, if "require" means "you are required to make do with imagination and interpretation because you have no way to test and then reproduce test results to confirm the explanation." All science INCLUDES imagination and interpretation. Evolution, a pseudo-science, ONLY has imagination and interpretation.
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Well, Nick, that's a fair description of evolution right there, if you base it on ONLY imagination.
Thankfully, population biologists use the real Theory, and not your version, and the Theory of Evolution remains quite well supported, and quite testable.
Toodles.
Thankfully, population biologists use the real Theory, and not your version, and the Theory of Evolution remains quite well supported, and quite testable.
Toodles.
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Excellent rebuttal, Nick. I'm rather thankful you're here. If it wasn't for you, we'd have actual discussion and intelligent debate. Thankfully, you lower the bar so that most of my posts require the minimal amount of effort to debate.
Heck, if your objections were thoughtful or educated, I might end up learning something!
Heck, if your objections were thoughtful or educated, I might end up learning something!
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Ahh. The old "evolution is not testable" saw.
Do I have to make you read this again:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc
No matter how much you deny it, evolution IS testable. It is tested every time someone finds a new fossil, every time someone compares genomes between species, every time mutation rates are measured, and every time a rock is radiometrically dated.
Unless you can explain why these are not valid tests of evolution, then your claims are groundless.
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