double meanings

[Hedgehog]

I would like to propose a challenge.
I'm asking you to consider for a second if perhaps God has always had ONE meaning to His scriptures. If perhaps ethnic Israel misunderstood and never knew the ONE TRUE meaning.
As opposed to everything having changed now.
Maybe its what we KNOW that has changed, not what God ALWAYS MEANT.


Jhn 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.

now does God mean, well I originally meant do it "this way", but later Im going to change it to mean that I now want it to look like I am speaking of Jesus?

Jhn 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

Luk 24:44 And he said unto them, These [are] the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and [in] the prophets, and [in] the psalms, concerning me.

Jhn 1:45 Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.


When God spoke to Abraham and said :

Gen 13:15 For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever.

Gen 13:16 And I will make thy seed as the dust of the earth: so that if a man can number the dust of the earth, [then] shall thy seed also be numbered.



Did God really mean Abrahams blood kinsmen? and then did He change it?

or did He ALWAYS mean: Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

But ethnic Israel misunderstood.

Was He really speaking of an earthly land?
or did He mean a land that is heavenly?

Did Abraham understand this and that is why he is the father of faith? Because he really truly understood this concept?( though his kinsmen after him did not)

Hbr 11:9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as [in] a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:

Is this canaan, or Israel being spoke of here? or is it the real "promised land"

Hbr 11:10 For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker [is] God.

Hbr 11:16 But now they desire a better [country], that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

 

[Hedgehog]

oh and my point is, maybe instead of thinking to "read" the scriptures differently is to read it with double meanings.... maybe it is Israel who set the way for reading the double meanings into it.
Isnt this why Jesus came and shed light?

To shed light implies Israel was in darkness.

Mat 4:16 The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up.

Luk 1:79 To give light to them that sit in darkness and [in] the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.


Israel seen thru a veil:

2Cr 3:13 And not as Moses, [which] put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
2Cr 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which [vail] is done away in Christ.
2Cr 3:15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.


Why do we want to trust in the way Israel read and seen the scriptures?....wating for a temple etc... is it just because the scriptures "appear" to mean that?
Come on guys... the light has been shed now, Paul and others explained what was really meant.
It didnt change, they just never understood. They never understood that when God said to David
2Sa 7:11 Also the LORD telleth thee that ****he****** will make thee an house.
HE!! The Lord!! Not the men of Israel!!

 

[Hedgehog]

Mal 3:6 For I [am] the LORD, I change not;

 

[Hedgehog]

and before someone posts that yes God does change as in :

Hbr 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

I want you to consider that maybe it was MAN who changed it, not God.
God always wanted it to be the way it is now, but MAN caused the entirety of the old covenant to come onto themselves.


Gal 3:15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though [it be] but a man's covenant, yet [if it be] confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.

and it was confirmed by Moses.

Hbr 9:18 Whereupon neither the first [testament] was dedicated without blood.

Hbr 9:19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,

Hbr 9:20 Saying, This [is] the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you

look at what happened:

Act 7:41 And they made a calf in those days, and offered sacrifice unto the idol, and rejoiced in the works of their own hands.

Act 7:42 Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven;

Deu 5:22 These words the LORD spake unto all your assembly in the mount out of the midst of the fire, of the cloud, and of the thick darkness, with a great voice: and he added no more.

this was after giving the 10 commandments.

Who did give more then?

Act 7:53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept [it].

Gal 3:19 Wherefore then [serveth] the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; [and it was] ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

Hbr 2:2 For if the word spoken by angels