don't you think sum heavy rock is too overboard?

[Trinity4Eternity]

some hard christian rock just shouldn't be classifed as christian...thats my opinion...sure i like 12 stones but when they start doing screamo its just not right.....what u think?

 

[integra evan]

I think that if they are a Christian band with a Christian message, they should be labeled as Christian.

 

[Andy Broadley]

No problem with them being classified as Christian if that's what they are (never heard of em personally).

I do think that they are ineffective as a means of spreading the word simply because you can't understand the lyrics.

 

[amiel]

I aggree, There is no way they are thinking about God while screaming away. Heavy music also makes people aggresive which is certainly questionable.

 

[msturek]

Paul had a singular message when he was preaching the Truth, but he always changed his delivery to suit his audience. So it is with Christian music, whether it's traditional Gospel, CCM, metal or otherwise. Our hearts are opened by different means.

 

[Godshouse777]

I believe that a person's motives are what God looks at. If the band is trying to look like the world sound like the world and has the "We are as good as the world..." mentality then I believe God is disappointed. If the band has the attitude that they are trying to "reach" the lost by becoming all things to all men, then PTL. However many bands quote the latter reason as their motivation, but the only way to REALLY know if they are serious is to find out how they LIVE. Do they offer their precious time to disciple a kid in Christ, or are they too busy cutting records?

Just my opinions, nothing against the band.
Thanks

 

[msturek]

Excellent point, Godshouse777. I think that standard has to be applied to ANY band/artist that bills itself as a Christian, not just hard music. Otherwise, they're just "making a buck off of Christ's name" as I've heard it put before.

 

[LondonsBurning]

I think you are being very judgemental. If these bands are trying to serve God with their music, who cares about style.

Metal lyrics are hard to understand. So do we leave the metal scene to secular acts or do we thank God for acts like Norma Jean and Zao?

Think about it before you judge.

 

[skinnybrad]

well me for one i thank God for Zao and Norma Jean


Im trying to start a Christian punk band now dont judge punk if you were brought up in the 70s because its totally different now

 

[guitargatler]

i think if their hearts are in the right place then its awesome..but u cant really tell that unless your god...but i dunno if i would wanna start taking god out of things that he has used to touch many people

 

[rachelg2004]

yeah i think it becomes less of their offering to god and more of a performance of yelling and angry annoyance

 

[Jesse Bear]

I personally don't see the harm in using one's talents and then giving them back to God in a way. Bands like Switchfoot have their Christian messages hidden in their songs and they are nationally known. I think the same goes for any band who decides themselves to be Christians, hardcore and alternative alike. Take Living Sacrifice, for example. They weren't all about musical performance. I heard a couple songs of theirs that sang praises to God, which I think is very cool because it's like they were taking a break from making the music and took the time to focus on God for a moment. Everyone needs that sort of inspiration. I'm telling you no matter what genre you're into, you'll always find something uplifting to God.

 

[Bohemian]

some hard christian rock just shouldn't be classifed as christian...thats my opinion...sure i like 12 stones but when they start doing screamo its just not right.....what u think?

I suppose it could, but alot heavy metal kinda has an angry sound with all the screaming, etc. Can you think of anything Christian to fit with that?

 

[Jesse Bear]

I believe in a thing called righteous anger. You can express anger to a society for straying from what this country what was and what it was founded on in God's name. Jesus was once angry for turning a holy place into a market place, you know. Anger is inside all of us, but the trick it to express it properly.

 

[Jesse Bear]

Jesus was once angry for turning a holy place into a market place, you know.

I mean he was angry when he noticed what it had become as a holy place. Heh. Oops.

 

[peanutbutter12]

Everyone has their own style. Older people would say that the contemporary music you listen to, your Rebecca St James and your Michael W Smith, are also evil for the simple fact that they are not Hymns. Music changes with time and there is nothing wrong with having a message of peace mixed in with that Culture. That's not looking outside the box.

CJ

 

[Bohemian]

I believe in a thing called righteous anger. You can express anger to a society for straying from what this country what was and what it was founded on in God's name. Jesus was once angry for turning a holy place into a market place, you know. Anger is inside all of us, but the trick it to express it properly.

Yeah, well yelling at someone usually doesn't fix anything, and yelling at the converted would do even less. Personally, I'm not a big fan of anger in any form or use, but that's just me.

 

[skinnybrad]

i play in a punk band but im in charge of screams and i think its okay

 

[CM]

Personally, I'm all for it. I mean, they're preaching in a different way, appealing to people who liek different types of music.
It says "Make a joyfull noise" doesn't it? Everyone has their different ways of sspeaking the truth..My kind is the kind I can also rock out to >_>';

 

[Im_A]

some hard christian rock just shouldn't be classifed as christian...thats my opinion...sure i like 12 stones but when they start doing screamo its just not right.....what u think?

i just think it's part of the style of music. and in the Christian scene it's part of the style also. i mean it does seem that people in the heavy music scene usually have something extreme they want to talk about through their message. it is also the same with the heavy music in the non-christian world.

i do think that people can take it too far tho. meaning too far as in the satanic, shock bands. myself personally have my own standards of what metal i'll listen too. not because i want to be a judgemental prick, but i listen to the music that i want to listen too. some of the "satanic" "shock" metal out there are very talented musicians. but i don't like hearing the lyrics. i listen to stylistically first. i mean i respect bands or groups that aren't into my favorite style, but i'd be that most of us, won't listen to great Christian lyrics that aren't in our favorite style of music. i mean some of the Christian metal and hard rock bands, have awesome, awesome lyrics, but they are missed because people don't like the style, but yet dare to claim other groups are better because their style of music is different? i just don't see constant train of thought with that.

i just think we have to remember that screaming comes with the style of hard rock and metal. to some degree i see it as venting, or a release, or such a strong feeling for something that they have to scream it at the top of their lungs and play as hard and fast as they can. everything is part of the style of heavy rock/metal. the heavy, fast, guitars drumming, the heavy, fast bass, the heavy, fast, intricate guitars, the singing to screaming, the emotion. it's part of the music and the scene no matter what style of hard rock/metal you listen too. and in my opinion, it's just something we have to accept. i dont' see it as some spiritual thing. it's just individuals that use technology and other emotional outlets to show much they love, hate, feel about something. that's one of the big reasons why i love it so much, besides the heavy/fast guitars and drums, hehe, but the emotion in it is raw and real to me. i like stuff groups that sing too, but for the most part, i'm really big into the raw and real emotion that comes out of heavy rock/metal. i think a lot of people miss that because they overanalyze the style too much.