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Just as it is with someone who misunderstands plain English.


theory
noun the·o·ry \ˈthē-ə-rē, ˈthir-ē\
Definition of theory for Students
plural
theories
  1. 1 : an idea or opinion that is presented as true <Nobody knows where he went, but each of us has a theory.> <Perhaps they were formulating their own theories about how Cedric had died. — J. K. Rowling, Goblet of Fire>

  2. 2 : a general rule offered to explain a scientific phenomenon <the theory of gravity>

  3. 3 : the general rules followed in a science or an art <music theory>
Read past point 1, and then, stop using a literary dictionary to look up scientific definitions.
 
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Nor do they help the case.
Quite, they're entirely irrelevant to it.

Hey, if you refuse to see a real world good point, that's up to to you. this is one of those things that are hardly worth arguing.
It's a point that has nothing to do with the facts of evolution, it's a point about what may or may not be appropriate in the workplace. The two sides of the story are so far apart, I suspect they're both some way from the truth, so I see it more as a reminder of potential problems of conflicts between religion and science in the workplace.
 
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Quite, they're entirely irrelevant to it.

It's a point that has nothing to do with the facts of evolution, it's a point about what may or may not be appropriate in the workplace. The two sides of the story are so far apart, I suspect they're both some way from the truth, so I see it more as a reminder of potential problems of conflicts between religion and science in the workplace.

Clearly you really do refuse to see the implication.

I do, end of story.
 
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Read past point 1, and then, stop using a literary dictionary to look up scientific definitions.

You can't be serious.

Don't use a dictionary to look up scientific definitions?? We aren't dealing with scientific definitions here, we are dealing with the word "opinion". And you people say agenda is not involved here? :rolleyes:

I use a dictionary to look up definitions,. and since you don't like the definition due to the fact it doesn't work for your agenda, you basically tell me not to use a dictionary to look up definitions. I use a dictionary for any other word, why not in this case?

Do you not see how ridiculous your reply is?

Creative too. I was wondering how you were going to get out of that one.... Still am ;)
 
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And mind you all, scientific theory only means it is scientific opinion, nothing more.

No its not "opinion".

A scientific theory is a description of physical reality, so you are arguing against reality. Quite funny.
 
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You can't be serious.

Don't use a dictionary to look up scientific definitions?? We aren't dealing with scientific definitions here, we are dealing with the word "opinion". And you people say agenda is not involved here? :rolleyes:

I use a dictionary to look up definitions,. and since you don't like the definition due to the fact it doesn't work for your agenda, you basically tell me not to use a dictionary to look up definitions. I use a dictionary for any other word, why not in this case?

Do you not see how ridiculous your reply is?

Creative too. I was wondering how you were going to get out of that one.... Still am ;)
No. We're talking about the word "theory", not "opinion". Look it up in a dictionary of scientific terms if you want the correct scientific use of it.

Name calling doesn't make you less wrong, either, FYI.
 
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A scientific theory is a description of physical reality, so you are arguing against reality. Quite funny.

So you are saying what is defined as opinion is in fact reality?

Even more funny.

A lot of "just us saying it makes it so" around here, especially when things like dictionaries say it isn't. Easy to see how you all so easily fall for the evolution fallacy...it's so because they said so.

Funnier yet.
 
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So you are saying what is defined as opinion is in fact reality?

Even more funny.

A lot of "just us saying it makes it so" around here, especially when things like dictionaries say it isn't. Easy to see how you all so easily fall for the evolution fallacy...it's so because they said so.

Funnier yet.

I know science can be hard and all, but really, the meaning of "scientific theory" is probably high school.

There is no excuse to stay ignorant really, unless you wanna keep making amusing ill-informed posts?
 
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Name calling doesn't make you less wrong, either, FYI.

Point that name out to me.

No. We're talking about the word "theory", not "opinion". Look it up in a dictionary of scientific terms if you want the correct scientific use of it.

And theory is defined as opinion.

Unbelievable
 
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I know science can be hard and all, but really, the meaning of "scientific theory" is probably high school.

I know English can be hard and all, but really, Theory is defined as opinion.

It's also defined as assumption. a little icing on the cake for ya'. :)
 
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I know English can be hard and all, but really, Theory is defined as opinion.

It's also defined as assumption. a little icing on the cake for ya'. :)

Maybe you should look up "scientific theory"?

Www.google.com
 
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You calling it opinion repeatedly still doesn't make it an opinion.

Nope, but the Merriam Webster does.

Nor does peppering your post with condescension nor name calling.

Funny how they show desperation when they are wrong by bringing up the most petty irrelevant things. Never fails with some.
 
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Nope, but the Merriam Webster does.
As has ALSO been explained to you, a literary dictionary is not the place to find scientific definitions.
Funny how they show desperation when they are wrong by bringing up the most petty irrelevant things. Never fails with some.
Is there a reason you prefer being wrong and insulting to, you know, learning something correct?

Here's the actual definition of a SCIENTIFIC theory:
A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed, preferably using a written, pre-defined, protocol of observations and experiments.

https://www.nap.edu/read/6024/chapter/2#2
And another
The Structure of Scientific Theories
First published Thu Mar 5, 2015
Scientific inquiry has led to immense explanatory and technological successes, partly as a result of the pervasiveness of scientific theories. Relativity theory, evolutionary theory, and plate tectonics were, and continue to be, wildly successful families of theories within physics, biology, and geology. Other powerful theory clusters inhabit comparatively recent disciplines such as cognitive science, climate science, molecular biology, microeconomics, and Geographic Information Science (GIS). Effective scientific theories magnify understanding, help supply legitimate explanations, and assist in formulating predictions. Moving from their knowledge-producing representational functions to their interventional roles (Hacking 1983), theories are integral to building technologies used within consumer, industrial, and scientific milieus.
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/structure-scientific-theories/
 
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As has ALSO been explained to you, a literary dictionary is not the place to find scientific definitions.

As has been explained to you, the term Theory is not a scientific definition, it's a word, and we define words with dictionaries.

Is there a reason you prefer being wrong and insulting to, you know, learning something correct?
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LOL, your telling ME I prefer to be wrong? I'd be embarrassed to even be having this argument if I were you.
 
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That's name calling? Seriously?

Like I said desperate, and even more so than I first thought. You're giving away the fact you know you haven't a leg to stand on here.
See previous post. 2 definitions of scientific theory. Both credible sources, more appropriate than a generalist literary dictionary. Neither mentions opinion.
 
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Depends on how you measure race, I suppose. Science doesn't actually recognize race, so I gave you an explanation for why all humans don't look the same, and why people primarily of ancestry from specific areas tend to have similar traits to each other.
The concept of race is more of a human invention centered around these physical traits and cultural backgrounds. By that dynamic, the number of "races" world wide are in the multi hundreds, perhaps thousands.

OK, so?
 
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A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed, preferably using a written, pre-defined, protocol of observations and experiments.

Many opinions are well-substantiated, but they are opinions nonetheless. You do realize that is telling us evolution is substantiated, which means it's a fact?

What would the evolutionist/Atheist think of me if I started finagling
things, playing with the English language and such, like is happening
here, and as end result, also as has happened here, I called my
theories/opinions on the Bible substantiated fact? I would expect them
to see me as desperate and untruthful, and that I didn't have much
faith in the bible/my beliefs, else I wouldn't have to depend on what I
had wrongly done in order to push the bible as truth.

Just because someone wants to pretend the term gets special treatment because it has to do with science, doesn't mean it does. Any one else making such a claim with an already defined term would get laughed at as much as I'm laughing at this.

How arrogant, "we are scientists so we get to tell everyone Theory means what we say is substantiated, hence fact, and they will believe us, and should believe us because we are Scientists"

....sorry but...no.

I'll stick with the dictionary, and you use whatever works for you, and speaking of working for you....this is exactly what I was after here, and you show beyond a doubt how science...actually scientists with an agenda will make things up due to their bias so they will certainly misread evidence to mean what they want and draw false conclusion.

Thank you.
 
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