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Tired of debating people, presenting the evidence they specifically ask for, and having people ignore it or treat it as invalid for no good reason. So, on this thread, creationists will ask questions about evolution, and evolution supporters will answer (religion does not matter, only whether or not you support creation or evolution does. People who support evolution as guided by a deity are counted as evolution supporters and can only answer questions).

Here are the additional rules:

1. Questions cannot be about an answer someone gave unless it is requesting clarification.

2. Questions must be polite.

3. People cannot ask the same question multiple times, though more than one person can answer the question.

4. People answering questions can't ask questions themselves, just as a reminder, nor can those asking questions answer.

5. Answers must be polite.

6. No comments on questions or answers, this isn't about criticizing, this is about presenting information people ask for, end of story. If you guys have issues with each other on what is asked or how it is answered, do so in a private message.

7. I recommend people provide links to the information in their answers.
 

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You are asking far too much of creationists, you are trying to be reasonable and I commend your patience and perseverance, however, as you well know if creationists were reasonable people they would not be creationists.

What we really need is an ex-creationist to tell us what is going on in their heads, how do they manage to keep lying to themselves and others with such ease and indifference? some of the things they say would make a con man blush,
and to say it with such conviction is just incredible.

No comments allowed, and this probably would offend some people.
 
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You are asking far too much of creationists, you are trying to be reasonable and I commend your patience and perseverance, however, as you well know if creationists were reasonable people they would not be creationists.

What we really need is an ex-creationist to tell us what is going on in their heads, how do they manage to keep lying to themselves and others with such ease and indifference? some of the things they say would make a con man blush,
and to say it with such conviction is just incredible.

Dear dan dare, Strange, but I've found the SAME to be true for the followers of Evolutionism. Do you actually believe that Apes magically inherited Human intelligence through long periods of time and numerous mutations? If so, then it will be easy to refute your false and incomplete beliefs in man's knowledge, instead of God's. I look forward to it. God Bless you.

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Dear dan dare, Strange, but I've found the SAME to be true for the followers of Evolutionism. Do you actually believe that Apes magically inherited Human intelligence through long periods of time and numerous mutations? If so, then it will be easy to refute your false and incomplete beliefs in man's knowledge, instead of God's. I look forward to it. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

There is nothing magical about inheritance. It is a well understood and natural process.
 
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There is nothing magical about inheritance. It is a well understood and natural process.

Dear Loudmouth, It would have to be Magic to install Human intelligence in an Ape. That's because Humans cannot produce offspring with Apes, so HOW did you get the FIRST Human? Answer Magic....OR....read Genesis to see a complete explanation and refutation of the False ToE. Want Scripture? God Bless you.

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Tired of debating people, presenting the evidence they specifically ask for, and having people ignore it or treat it as invalid for no good reason. So, on this thread, creationists will ask questions about evolution, and evolution supporters will answer (religion does not matter, only whether or not you support creation or evolution does. People who support evolution as guided by a deity are counted as evolution supporters and can only answer questions).

Here are the additional rules:

1. Questions cannot be about an answer someone gave unless it is requesting clarification.

2. Questions must be polite.

3. People cannot ask the same question multiple times, though more than one person can answer the question.

4. People answering questions can't ask questions themselves, just as a reminder, nor can those asking questions answer.

5. Answers must be polite.

6. No comments on questions or answers, this isn't about criticizing, this is about presenting information people ask for, end of story. If you guys have issues with each other on what is asked or how it is answered, do so in a private message.

7. I recommend people provide links to the information in their answers.

Feeling out of control Sarah?
 
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Prove it.

Dear Loudmouth, Sure. Repeat it. You cannot since Apes do NOT magically change into Humans. Only the descendants of Adam, the first Human, inherit his superior intelligence, which is like God's. Gen 3:22

God tells us the first Human was made billions of years, in man's time, BEFORE the common ancestor of Apes. Gen 2:4-7 You tell us we evolved from the common ancestor of Apes. Can you explain WHY your view is directly opposite of God's Truth? OR, is your glorious ToE wrong? Is it incomplete since Humans were NOT made on this Earth? Do you expect us to believe YOU instead of God? God Bless you.

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Aman,

Humans are apes.

Dear selfinflikted, Only because of the incomplete false notions caused by the False Theory of Evolution. Evolution has taught it's Big Lie, that we evolved from the common ancestor of Apes, to little children in the Public Schools for more than 50 years. I am sorry that you have been brain washed into believing such a Lie. God Bless you.

BTW, You can read God's Truth of how Humans were made long BEFORE any other living creature in Gen 2:4-7. Adam was FIRST made.

In Love,
Aman
 
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Dear Loudmouth, Sure. Repeat it. You cannot since Apes do NOT magically change into Humans. Only the descendants of Adam, the first Human, inherit his superior intelligence, which is like God's. Gen 3:22

Prove it. Where is your evidence?

God tells us . . .

You are not God, the Bible is not God, nor are the authors of the Bible. Sorry, you strike out on that one.
 
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Dear selfinflikted, Only because of the incomplete false notions caused by the False Theory of Evolution. Evolution has taught it's Big Lie, that we evolved from the common ancestor of Apes, to little children in the Public Schools for more than 50 years. I am sorry that you have been brain washed into believing such a Lie. God Bless you.

BTW, You can read God's Truth of how Humans were made long BEFORE any other living creature in Gen 2:4-7. Adam was FIRST made.

In Love,
Aman

Still waiting for evidence. Will you be presenting any?
 
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Prove it. Where is your evidence?

Dear Loudmouth, It's not me who is Claiming that Apes magically changed into people with Human intelligence. It's up to those who Falsely teach their Evol Religion to our little children who MUST support their "beliefs" and they CANNOT. Neither can you.

You are not God, the Bible is not God, nor are the authors of the Bible. Sorry, you strike out on that one.

I am a man. The Bible is God's Holy Word. God the Holy Spirit is the Author of Scripture, working from inside the people who wrote what He told them to write. It is YOU who is currently scheduled to "strike out" in the end of the Life Game. Repent and turn to Jesus. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman
 
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This is coming from the guy who thinks Adam and Eve came from a different earth that appeared out of Turkey...

Dear Strathos, False, since Adam and Eve were NEVER on this Planet. They lived and died on the first world according to God. Not me. Why do you publicly mock what God told us in Genesis?

BTW, The ark arrived in the mountains of Ararat, which is in southeastern Turkey, EXACTLY where Human civilization began on this Earth. Can you tell us what 2 and 2 equals? It equals the division between Bible Believers and Religionists. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman
 
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It was an honourable attempt and should be commended for that. Aman777 has demonstrated that he has no interest in a constructive dialogue, but is committed to preaching. He diminishes himself thereby. You provided an opportunity. HE - and others rejected it. That is to their shame, not yours.
 
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Don't blame yourself. I want to say I tried something similar a while back and it just got crapped on by a number of the prominent anti-education nutters in this forum.

I think they secretly all know they are very wrong and that the reason why they continually repeat their nonsense, is to convince themselves of it more so than others.

They know they are lying, don't worry. Especially the ones that like to call everything else a "LIE" and "FALSE" with excessive emphasis. You know how most homophobic preachers eventually up getting caught having sex with other men? It's like that.
 
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