Doing it right.....

[Christina M]

There was a line on Law & Order tonight that went like this:

"It is possible to do everything right, to follow all the rules, and yet still get the wrong result."

Do you think this is a correct saying, spiritually?

How have you seen it play out in your own life?

 

[ABlessedAnomaly]

There was a line on Law & Order tonight that went like this:

"It is possible to do everything right, to follow all the rules, and yet still get the wrong result."

Do you think this is a correct saying, spiritually?

How have you seen it play out in your own life?

No I don't.

If you have the wrong results in God's pardigm, then you have done something wrong. Wonderfully, though, there is Mercy, so that you can't get too far out of whack. God's Grace will see you through even when you completely foul it all up. The Holy Spirit will guide you; just quiet down and listen....sometimes life just gets too loud around us and we get sucked into a misguided path.

Is there something in specific that isn't working for you? Or was it just the show that sparked a thought?

In His Love
Bob

 

[tturt]

I don't know if this is what you're referring to but

I've read someone thought they needed to apologize to someone and that person didn't know they had hard feelings toward them, then they were really upset.

You believe the door has opened to talk with someone about Christ Jesus and they insult you. (Granted the message may impact them later).

Is this the kind of thing you're referring to?

 

[Christina M]

No I don't.

If you have the wrong results in God's pardigm, then you have done something wrong.

Is there something in specific that isn't working for you? Or was it just the show that sparked a thought?

Yes. The show sparked the thought... but it got me to thinking.... about myself and others who have ever had not-so-good results when they really thought they were doing the Lord's will -- i.e. "doing it right"

 

[Christina M]

I don't know if this is what you're referring to but

I've read someone thought they needed to apologize to someone and that person didn't know they had hard feelings toward them, then they were really upset.

You believe the door has opened to talk with someone about Christ Jesus and they insult you. (Granted the message may impact them later).

Is this the kind of thing you're referring to?

I think what you have said here applies to the 'somewhat conclusion' this train of thought has gotten me to..... when it comes to another person(s) being involved, there is no guarantee. YOU can do everything God's way, do things right, yet it still goes haywire.... as in your example, or these here. In each case, one party did it all right, but the results were devastating.... hence the quote "It is possible to do everything right, to follow all the rules, and yet still get the wrong result."


Two men go into business and one does it all above board and with biblical standards.... but the other takes shortcuts or cheats in some way and the biz fails.

A surgeon is operating and it is going well, but anesthesiologist mistakenly uses the wrong dosage and the patient dies.

A married couple is called into ministry, but one spouse falls into temptation and the consquences cause he ministry to default.

 

[ABlessedAnomaly]

.... hence the quote "It is possible to do everything right, to follow all the rules, and yet still get the wrong result."

Two men go into business and one does it all above board and with biblical standards.... but the other takes shortcuts or cheats in some way and the biz fails.

Oh, those results. Let's pick one...the two biz men. Why is the business failing "the result"?

Did Israel "fail" to make the promised land? Except for Joshua and Caleb, the people who left Egypt didn't make it. But what was "the result"?

Did Jesus "fail" to get His message across? To the disciples, He was murdered for what He preached; they went back to their ordinary businesses. But what was "the result"?

There is a free will given to us. Other's free will can and does affect each one of us. Look at what Adam did in free will and how it affected you and me. And on the surface it just doesn't seem fair.

One man does everything "right" but his business partner cheats and the business fails. Let's suppose the righteous man didn't know about the cheating (or else he didn't do everything right, did he?), and the business crumbles around him. Don't you think that God is in the situation to turn it around for the righteous man? That "the result" is not yet seen? That this good man is still walking through the desert and hasn't quite made it to the promised land?

Sometimes what we view as "the result" is too short sighted, too narrow focused and too, well, selfish. How did this affect me; and how did it affect me now. I don't want to think about tomorrow; I want it now.

We need to know that all things work to the Glory of God. If we know that, then when outside circumstances affect us we can know that we are in the midsts of the journey...God's not done.

In His Love
Bob

 

[Christina M]

Oh, those results. Let's pick one...the two biz men. Why is the business failing "the result"?

Did Israel "fail" to make the promised land? Except for Joshua and Caleb, the people who left Egypt didn't make it. But what was "the result"?

Did Jesus "fail" to get His message across? To the disciples, He was murdered for what He preached; they went back to their ordinary businesses. But what was "the result"?

There is a free will given to us. Other's free will can and does affect each one of us. Look at what Adam did in free will and how it affected you and me. And on the surface it just doesn't seem fair.

One man does everything "right" but his business partner cheats and the business fails. Let's suppose the righteous man didn't know about the cheating (or else he didn't do everything right, did he?), and the business crumbles around him. Don't you think that God is in the situation to turn it around for the righteous man? That "the result" is not yet seen? That this good man is still walking through the desert and hasn't quite made it to the promised land?

Sometimes what we view as "the result" is too short sighted, too narrow focused and too, well, selfish. How did this affect me; and how did it affect me now. I don't want to think about tomorrow; I want it now.

We need to know that all things work to the Glory of God. If we know that, then when outside circumstances affect us we can know that we are in the midsts of the journey...God's not done.

In His Love
Bob

Not discussing Romans 8:28, Bob. I fully know and have experienced it.

Just talking about something that crossed my mind last night.... immediate results may not turn out right. Doesn't mean God won't turn it around for good, but still doesn't change that the intended desire was not met.

 

[pdudgeon]

sometimes our intentions don't match God's? Luke 12:16-21

 

[DiscipleWhomJesusLoves]

There was a line on Law & Order tonight that went like this:

"It is possible to do everything right, to follow all the rules, and yet still get the wrong result."

Do you think this is a correct saying, spiritually?

How have you seen it play out in your own life?

Yes of cse, if you go by rules/law, you can't be Spirit-led.

Galatians 5:18
18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
NKJV

 

[mdaniel]

We need to know that all things work to the Glory of God. If we know that, then when outside circumstances affect us we can know that we are in the midsts of the journey...God's not done.

Well said my brother. I think it's easy to do what we want and just expect God to bless it. Storms will come. If your foundation was built on the rock (God's word) then you will survive.

 

[Trish1947]

There was a line on Law & Order tonight that went like this:

"It is possible to do everything right, to follow all the rules, and yet still get the wrong result."

Do you think this is a correct saying, spiritually?

How have you seen it play out in your own life?

On a personal level, if you mean doing it right, meaning your doing exactly what the Lord said to do, I have to admit God has never failed me. If it ever didn't work out exactly how I had thought it would, it was always better than I was thinking afterall. I was thinking too small. When dealing with other's though, that's another issue. Your dealing with others and what they believe or don't believe, things that might be going on in their life, etc. that we have no idea.

 

[lyonguard]

There are also times when you believe you are doing everything right only to find out that you aren't. Those are the times that you ask God what's wrong and He reminds you of something you were supposed to do and didn't or something in your life you need to deal with first.