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Thanks, I didn't catch that. You're right, there is no "miraculous," only "works" or "greater works" in the text. I wonder why the NET takes that liberty?
Really? No one has healed the blind, and healed more blind people than Jesus? No one has helped the lame to walk, and helped more lame to walk than Jesus? Do I need to continue?Hi guys,
In John 14:12, Jesus says this:
"I tell you the solemn truth, the person who believes in me will perform the miraculous deeds that I am doing, and will perform greater deeds than these, because I am going to the Father." (NET)
I understand that Him "going to the Father" implies that He will send His Spirit and empower us.
But, my question is: it seems to me no one has really DONE the kind of deeds / works Jesus did, never mind GREATER works.
So what is Jesus saying here? Thoughts?
Go!
I think it’s his bible version that is throwing off his understanding of this scripture because the version he quoted adds the word miraculous to Jesus’ works which probably leads him to believe that Jesus is speaking of miracles and not just the works that He did in general.
Interesting indeed! Good catch, thank you. I wonder why the NET did that. Usually I like the NET, it's an underrated Bible version IMO.Thanks, I didn't catch that. You're right, there is no "miraculous," only "works" or "greater works" in the text. I wonder why the NET takes that liberty?
Hi guys,
In John 14:12, Jesus says this:
"I tell you the solemn truth, the person who believes in me will perform the miraculous deeds that I am doing, and will perform greater deeds than these, because I am going to the Father." (NET)
I understand that Him "going to the Father" implies that He will send His Spirit and empower us.
But, my question is: it seems to me no one has really DONE the kind of deeds / works Jesus did, never mind GREATER works.
So what is Jesus saying here? Thoughts?
Go!
Thoughts on that?
Hi guys,
In John 14:12, Jesus says this:
"I tell you the solemn truth, the person who believes in me will perform the miraculous deeds that I am doing, and will perform greater deeds than these, because I am going to the Father." (NET)
I understand that Him "going to the Father" implies that He will send His Spirit and empower us.
But, my question is: it seems to me no one has really DONE the kind of deeds / works Jesus did, never mind GREATER works.
So what is Jesus saying here? Thoughts?
Go!
Thank you, there is no greater work than for someone to get a new heart.The whole church's works will be greater in number, but the greatest work of all is sharing our testimonies, which God uses to create the miracle of the new birth, a very powerful work indeed!
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"I tell you the solemn truth, the person who believes in me will perform the miraculous deeds that I am doing, and will perform greater deeds than these, because I am going to the Father." (NET)
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But, my question is: it seems to me no one has really DONE the kind of deeds / works Jesus did, never mind GREATER works.
So what is Jesus saying here? Thoughts?
true i became a christian through ps4 gamingGreater in number.
Though he was God, Jesus was also a man, and limited to one time and place. Of course, we too can only be in one place at a time, but we can travel widely; take planes, boats, trains, buses to many places to preach the Gospel. We can also use the internet, send Bibles and Christian books electronically, and use things like Zoom, Face time and other things to meet other Christians and have prayer and fellowship. Or write blogs, articles, or Christian books.
Jesus is everywhere now, through his Spirit. He is in all of us as we go out to witness for him and take his light to the world.
First off: I am not satisfied with the answers I have been reading and especially the idea of “Numbers of converts”.
Look at the passage again because Christ gives a hint to what He is talking about: John 14: 12 Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.
Why would the “number” be greater, “because Christ went to the Father”?
What extremely great thing did Jesus not do while on earth in His body?
Look at the context of the verse since a few verses later we have: 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth… and will be in you.
In 16: 7… unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you.
Jesus describes this “Advocate” as His equal replacement which can only come to permanently indwell the individual after he leaves.
Peter will get up in his first Christ Crucified sermon and say something Christ could not say while he was on earth: Acts 2:38 “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
This indwelling permanent Holy Spirit could come through Peter (or any of us), but Christ could not say that at His time on earth.
So tell me: How great of a work is it to allow the Spirit to come through you to indwell others?
Not sure what you are asking?Peter will get up in his first Christ Crucified sermon and say something Christ could not say while he was on earth: Acts 2:38 “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
does that mean un baptized chrstians go
to hell a
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im not baptized AS ITS IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME ATM I SAVED FYI DUNNO WHY IT ON CAPS LOCK LOL
Which is why we should refer to several versions and not just lean on one alone.Translation is a significant task, and it can be difficult to avoid inserting unwarranted nuances into the text.
Might read my post 29Jesus lit a fire in Jerusalem at Pentecost.
Haters of Jesus immediately tried to snuff it out.
This truth of His Lordship is now heard pretty much anywhere on the Globe.
That in itself is a greater work.
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