Dogs licking sores of Lazarus question

[LittleLambofJesus]

I can see its connected to just that Lamb,

Psalm 22:21 Save me from the LION'S MOUTH: for thou hast ~heard me~ from THE HORNS ~of the unicorns~.

There won't be many saved from His "Lion's mouth" in revelation.

John 19:15 and they cried out, `Take away, take away, crucify him;' Pilate saith to them, `Your king shall I crucify?' the chief priests answered, `We have no king except Caesar.'

John 11:48 if we may let Him alone thus, all will believe in Him; and the Romans will come, and will take away both our place and nation.'

Reve 5:5 And one out of the elders is saying to me: No you be lamenting! Behold! He conquers, the Lion, the out of the tribe of Judah, the root of David, to up-open the scrollet and the seven seals of it.

 

[Chickapee]

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Originally Posted by DevotiontoBible
You should consider the first part of my sentence along with only the part you bolded.

Ok. Notice the use of "little dogs" in Matt who were I believe are resembling the outcast of Israel. I view the "Dogs" as symbolically the priesthood and why I brought up revelation 11 of whom I think the "those with fear" are the OC Priesthood.

Luke 16:21 And desiring to be feeding/cortasqhnai <5526> from the crumbs/yiciwn <5589>, of the ones falling from the Table of the Rich Man; but also which the dogs/kuneV <2965> coming licking/apeleicon <621> the sores/elkh <1668> of him.

Matthew 15:27 The yet said, `Yea Lord/kurie <2962>, for even the little-dogs/kunaria <2952> do eat/esqiei <2068> of the crumbs/yiciwn <5589>, the ones falling from the Table/trapezhV <5132> of the lords/kuriwn <2962> of them;' Quote:
Luke 2:34 and Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, `Lo, this [one] is set for the falling and resurrection/anastasin <386> of many in Israel, and for a sign spoken against--

Reve 11: 11 And after the three days and a half, a spirit of life from God did enter into them, and they stood upon their feet, and great fear fell upon those beholding them,

well said Little Lamb , its i very comparable Parable bro! about Lazrus and the rich man and the dogs [priest] they were the male temple prostitutes as well yikes !



Isa 56:10 His watchmen [are] blind: they are all ignorant, they [are] all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber.

Isa 56:11 Yea, [they are] greedy dogs [which] can never have enough, and they [are] shepherds [that] cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter

GOD BLESS YOU BRO !

good words Fire ! yep the lions are the princes in ezekiel 19

peace and God bless ,,,C

 

[Chickapee]

Deu 23:17¶There shall be no harlot of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

Deu 23:18Thou shalt not bring the hire of a harlot, or the price of a dog, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these [are] abomination unto the LORD thy God.
thats what im seeing the sodomites same as dogs , the unfaithfulness to GOD i have looked into this before
God bless peace , c

 

[Fireinfolding]

lol wow this thread is awesome!
thanks to you all , im seeing alot !
God bless , c

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[torahgrandma]

That one verse in Psalms has been a "bone" of contention with the Jews and CHRIST-ians concerning the crucifixion for centuries I think.

Does anyone have an accurate translation of it they would like to show me?

Some mss have the Hebrew word for lion, others have the Hebrew word for dug, which is translated as "pierced".

This is in the translation notes for the Dead Sea Scrolls Bible. (pg 518-519)

“Psalm 22 is a favorite among Christians since it is often linked in the New Testament with the suffering and death of Jesus. A well-known and controversial reading is found in verse 16, where the Masoretic text reads “Like a lion are my hands and feet”, whereas the Septuagint has “They have pierced my hands and feet”. Among the scrolls the reading in question is found only in the Psalms scroll found at Nahal Hever (abbreviated 5/6 HevPs), which reads “They have pierced my hands and my feet”.

The LXX (septuagint) has dug/pierced also.

 

[Strong in Him]

Why does it have to be a symbol?

I agree with this bit. I don't know whether Lazaraus existed or not, but Jesus was telling a parable to make a particular point. I think if we're not careful, we can try to spiritualise everything, and be so busy examining Jesus' every word that we read things into a passage that he never intended, and miss the point of what he was teaching.

It's like all this end of the world stuff; some people are so busy examining dates, doing sums from Daniel and debating the meaning of 666 that they forget the main message - be ready. A sign is a sign; don't be so busy examining the grain of the wood that you fail to notice what it actually says, or the one to whom it points.

 

[BigNorsk]

Well a couple thing jump out to me about Lazarus and the dogs, but it's not that symbolic.

First, the dogs are unclean creatures to Jews. A devout Jews would not even let himself be defiled by such an unclean animal. That Lazarus went to Abraham's bosom reinforces Jesus other teachings that it is not what one eats or touches that really makes him unclean. You can see that carry over into figures of speach where being called a dog was certainly not a compliment.

Also the unclean dogs are kinder to Lazarus than the rich man. If the rich man helps Lazarus it is only by accident with him dropping bits of food. The dogs treat Lazarus' sores like they would their own licking them to heal him.

That's just what comes to mind.

Marv

 

[icxn]

Well a couple thing jump out to me about Lazarus and the dogs, but it's not that symbolic.

First, the dogs are unclean creatures to Jews. A devout Jews would not even let himself be defiled by such an unclean animal. That Lazarus went to Abraham's bosom reinforces Jesus other teachings that it is not what one eats or touches that really makes him unclean. You can see that carry over into figures of speach where being called a dog was certainly not a compliment.

Also the unclean dogs are kinder to Lazarus than the rich man. If the rich man helps Lazarus it is only by accident with him dropping bits of food. The dogs treat Lazarus' sores like they would their own licking them to heal him.

That's just what comes to mind.

Marv

Good post BigNorsk.

Blessed Theophylact (~11th century) also has a very good exposition, which can be read here. I only quote the symbolic part for those who like this approach:

... The parable may also be understood in a more figurative sense. The rich man represents the Hebrew people. Of old this people was rich in all knowledge and wisdom, and in the words of God which are more precious than gold and many costly stones. And this people was clothed in purple and fine linen, having both kingship and priesthood, being a royal priesthood to God [Ex. 19:6]. The purple signifies kingship and the fine linen priesthood, for the Levites used fine linen cloth for the priestly vestments. The Hebrews fared sumptuously everyday. Everyday, morning and evening, they offered sacrifice, which was called the constant offering [endelechismos, Ex. 29:38, 42]. Lazarus represents the people from among the Gentiles, destitute of divine grace and wisdom, lying before the gates. For the Gentiles were not permitted to enter the house of God; this was considered a defilement, as when, in the Book of Acts, an outcry was made against Paul for bringing Gentiles into the temple and defiling that holy place [Acts 21]. The Gentiles were covered with the sores of festering sin, on which impudent dogs, the demons, were feeding. For our sores are pleasure to the demons. And the Gentiles longed for the crumbs which fell from the table of the rich man. They had no share at all of that bread which strengtheneth mans heart [Ps. 103:17], and they were in need of those most subtle and refined particles of the rational food, like the Canaanite woman who desired to be fed from the crumbs, even though she was a Gentile [Mt. 15] What then? The Hebrew people died to God, and their bones, which made no movement towards the good, became stiff in death. But Lazarus, the Gentile people, died to sin, and the Jews, who died in their sins, burn with the flame of spite. They are envious, as the Apostle says, that the Gentiles have been accepted unto faith [see Rm. 11:11], and that the people of the nations, who before were destitute and dishonored, are now in the bosom of Abraham, the father of the nations, and rightly so. For Abraham, himself a Gentile, believed in God, and changed from idolatry to the knowledge of God. Therefore it is right that those who share in his change and in his faith should also find rest in his bosom, and inherit his same portion, dwelling place, and store of good things. The Jew desires just one drop of the old sprinklings and purifications of the law in order to cool his tongue, that he might have the boldness to say to us that the law is still in effect. But he does not obtain his desire. For the law was until John the Forerunner and from then sacrifice and offering hast Thou not desired, as the prophet foretold [Ps. 39:9] And Daniel foretold that the anointing [chrisma] shall be destroyed [Dan. 9:26], and prophecy shall be sealed [Dan. 12:4, 9], meaning, that prophecy shall cease and be closed. But you, 0 reader, must also understand the moral meaning of this parable. Do not be rich in wickedness and overlook your mind which is starved and cast down, although it was created to be borne aloft. Do not let it wander outside, nor let it lie idly on the ground, but lead it within and let it act. Then there will be in you the working of the mind and the spirit, and not merely the feasting of the flesh. Likewise, there are other elements of this parable which may easily be understood for your moral benefit.
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[LittleLambofJesus]

And the Gentiles longed for the crumbs which fell from the table of the rich man. They had no share at all of that bread which strengtheneth mans heart [Ps. 103:17],

Don't forget the non-Jewish Samaritans and Israelites, which I suppose could be considered "gentiles" also.

Hebrews 7:12 for the priesthood/ierwsunhV <2420> being changed, of necessity also, of law a change doth come,

Reve 11:2 and, the Court/aulhn <833> [Court of Priests/Altar of Burnt Offerings?] the one within/eswqen <2081> the Sanctuary[#3485], be you Casting Out!! [#1537-#906 ek-bale] out-side,[exw #1854]