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I'm pretty sure he is referring to Social Security as being the pyramid scheme (although I don't think bag holding is involved, even metaphorically).
I guess in so much as any insurance is a pyramid scheme.
 
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I'm pretty sure he is referring to Social Security as being the pyramid scheme (although I don't think bag holding is involved, even metaphorically).
Lol! Imagine what would happen in America if there were zero social supports for the poor?
 
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I'm pretty sure he is referring to Social Security as being the pyramid scheme (although I don't think bag holding is involved, even metaphorically).
SS is just one aspect of how the next generation gets left holding the bag. There are many predictions of when SS funds will soon run out, for working people who are still paying into it; but that is just the tip of the iceberg.

The bottom line is that fiat currency enables a government to spent more money than the people would willingly allow to be collected in taxes.

TLDR?

The government is spending too much.

Don't care?

More bread and circuses!
 
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Elon Musk says DOGE only 'a little bit successful', would not do it again​


https://www.reuters.com/world/us/el...-successful-would-not-do-it-again-2025-12-10/

SAN FRANCISCO, Dec 9 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump's Department of Government Efficiency was only "a little bit successful", Tesla CEO Elon Musk said on a podcast on Tuesday, adding that he would not lead the project again. The billionaire, who is founder of electric car company Tesla, was a major donor to Trump's presidential election campaign and became a close ally and adviser to his administration.

DOGE has disbanded with eight months left to its mandate, the Office of Personnel Management Director Scott Kupor told Reuters earlier this month. DOGE claimed to have slashed tens of billions of dollars in expenditures, but it was impossible for outside financial experts to verify that because the unit did not provide detailed public accounting of its work.
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A little bit successful ... is the same as mostly a failure.

Did anyone expect a different result?
 
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DOGE found so much fraud that nobody was indicted for fraud.
Remember at the Musk voter money give away rally where he announced impending fraud indictments?
He even stated while on stage, "Yes. In fact, I believe someone is going to be arrested tomorrow,"
That never happened either.
 
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DOGE Produced the Largest Peacetime Workforce Cut on Record, but Spending Kept Rising​


Cato scholars supported all these objectives. With DOGE now disbanded as a single entity, the main question is whether DOGE achieved its goals.

This analysis only focuses on federal outlays and employment. DOGE did not reduce spending, but it did reduce federal employment by nine percent in less than 10 months. A decline that large has not happened since the military demobilizations at the end of World War II and the Korean War (Figure 4).

According to Cato’s report to the DOGE Commission last year, a 10 percent cut in the federal workforce would only save about $40 billion annually.

The federal government spent $7.6 trillion in the first 11 months of calendar year 2025, approximately $248 billion higher by November of 2025 compared to the same month in 2024 (Figure 1). Cumulative spending in every month of 2025 was greater than in every other year and was approximately as much as the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) projected in June 2024, or slightly less in real terms. There is no visible structural break in 2025 spending that coincides with DOGE’s start date. An observer who did not know when DOGE started could not identify it in Figure 1.

DOGE’s target was to reduce the budget in absolute real terms without reference to a baseline projection. DOGE did not cut spending by either standard.

 
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Exclusive: DOGE cuts prompt scramble to feed troops at remote US base

An Army base in Alaska responsible for protecting the U.S. homeland from nuclear missile attack has struggled to feed its soldiers in recent months due to the Trump administration's efforts to shrink the federal workforce, according to a military document.
Fort Greely is tucked in the rugged interior of the 49th state, just north of a gap in the glacier-capped mountains of the Alaska Range. The base experienced a "critical disruption in food service operations" after the remote Army base lost "essential" federal civilian cooks in the wake of efforts to shrink the workforce, said an Army official whose name was redacted in an official contract document published Jan. 7.
This is an admin who just does without asking any follow up questions.
 
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Efficiency!

Doge cuts cost US taxpayers $10bn to cover workers’ paid leave, analysis finds

Analysis estimates Trump administration ‘wasted’ billions to compensate over 154,000 federal employees on leave

“Ironically, this outrageous waste of human capital – when key federal agencies such as the National Park Service were horribly understaffed – was done in the name of government efficiency.”
 
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Efficiency!

Doge cuts cost US taxpayers $10bn to cover workers’ paid leave, analysis finds

Analysis estimates Trump administration ‘wasted’ billions to compensate over 154,000 federal employees on leave

“Ironically, this outrageous waste of human capital – when key federal agencies such as the National Park Service were horribly understaffed – was done in the name of government efficiency.”

Bring back DEI! The new folks in charge don't seem to be doing that well.
 
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Anyway, no one has said he IS a king, only that he would be if he could be.
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Efficiency!

Doge cuts cost US taxpayers $10bn to cover workers’ paid leave, analysis finds

Analysis estimates Trump administration ‘wasted’ billions to compensate over 154,000 federal employees on leave

“Ironically, this outrageous waste of human capital – when key federal agencies such as the National Park Service were horribly understaffed – was done in the name of government efficiency.”
So to further the calculation: 160 B - 135B = 25B - 10B = 15B, in savings.
That's not including the lawsuit money taxpayers will have to cough up.
What a swimming success DOGE was.
 
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