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..waste takes money away from taxpayers, saving 200 billion a year might allow the government to give each working and retired person a $500 stemi check..
you are aware the GOP/conservatives, ala Trump/Musk are in office?! They won't (can't) be giving money away, it'll encourage freeloading and people not working.
I'm sure this will help some people on the edge.
.. yeah there's probably a few struggling millionaires on the edge of buying/not purchasing a bigger yacht.
 
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you are aware the GOP/conservatives, ala Trump/Musk are in office?! They won't (can't) be giving money away, it'll encourage freeloading and people not working.
Of course, you guys remind me of Trump every day. "working and retired person a $500 stemi check.."
.. yeah there's probably a few struggling millionaires on the edge of buying/not purchasing a bigger yacht.
Don't be too jealous but $500 to the 1% would be like you handing me a dollar but it will be equally distributed and the poorer people can use it.
 
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Lol, can anyone agree on what is wasteful spending? Then we have the USAID arguments and the go to is the humanitarian side which is not affected. Any waste takes money away from taxpayers, saving 200 billion a year might allow the government to give each working and retired person a $500 stemi check, I'm sure this will help some people on the edge.


He meant left but didn't want to offend the whole group by saying far left. You bring up a good point, what is the true definition of far left or right because the definition seems to morph over time? I see these folks as lunatic extremists if they break the law or violate my civil rights.

I believe this, we do not have good oversight with taxpayer money unless yall think there is no waste. This includes the mating habits of quail while on cocaine.
Trump has already promised $500 billion for private businesses reasearching so-called 'AI' (which would include his friend, the half-trillionaire Elon Musk). Ordinary people will not be seeing any of that $200 billion you mentioned, it won't be saved and it may even put many people out of the job if 'AI' can do their jobs instead.
 
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Trump has already promised $500 billion for private businesses reasearching so-called 'AI'
AI is a real thing. I like investments in tech.
Ordinary people will not be seeing any of that $200 billion you mentioned
I hear you the government has been robbing us blind since forever. What made me think of this was some discussion on UBI.
 
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“He’s more legitimate—or he has more statutory legitimacy—than earlier presidential advisors, like Harry Hopkins, who moved into the White House under the FDR administration, or Bernard Baruch, who basically ran two world wars, in terms of domestic production, under Woodrow Wilson and FDR. So, let’s just dispel the idea that he’s doing anything unusual. …

“As far as the executive orders that created the DOGE program and eliminated USAID—that was perfectly legal in itself—USAID was created by John F. Kennedy in 1961 by an executive order. There was a statutory direction for the president to disperse foreign aid into a comprehensive body, but it didn’t say USAID—he could do whatever he wanted. …

“And so, Donald Trump has decided to end an autonomous USAID and fold it into the State Department for disaster relief or poverty relief or famine relief. …“All Donald Trump is doing is saying, ‘I don’t believe the impoundment act is legal. We’ll see what the Supreme Court says—but I’m just following the precedent that Joe Biden did.’ But now, the shoe’s on the other foot.”


 
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AI is a real thing. I like investments in tech.

I hear you the government has been robbing us blind since forever. What made me think of this was some discussion on UBI.
In a blast furnace, the heat is put in at the bottom, to percolate up through iron ore and minerals to create molten iron.
The economy works best when there’s a good chunk of the money at the very bottom, percolating up through the economy.
UBI and UHC is where we’ll end up after we’ve tried everything else.
 
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In a blast furnace, the heat is put in at the bottom, to percolate up through iron ore and minerals to create molten iron.
The economy works best when there’s a good chunk of the money at the very bottom, percolating up through the economy.
UBI and UHC is where we’ll end up after we’ve tried everything else.
Sadly, fiscal and monetary policy is what is keeping worker's wages low.
 
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The executive order will leave just a few areas of the federal government unscathed, including positions affiliated with law enforcement, national security and immigration enforcement.


DOGE is focused on eliminating wasteful government spending and streamlining efficiency and operations, and it is expected to influence White House policy on budget matters. The group has been tasked with cutting $2 trillion from the federal government budget through efforts to slash spending, government programs and the federal workforce.

The White House said on Feb. 4 that it predicted a "spike" in resignations close to the original Feb. 6 deadline for the buyout offer, which would allow employees to retain all pay and benefits and be exempt from in-person work until Sept. 30.

"The number of deferred resignations is rapidly growing, and we’re expecting the largest spike 24 to 48 hours before the deadline," a White House official told Fox News Digital on Feb. 4.

 
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“He’s more legitimate—or he has more statutory legitimacy—than earlier presidential advisors, like Harry Hopkins, who moved into the White House under the FDR administration, or Bernard Baruch, who basically ran two world wars, in terms of domestic production, under Woodrow Wilson and FDR. So, let’s just dispel the idea that he’s doing anything unusual. …

And? The Executive Branch clearly has the power to prosecute a war. It does not have the power of the purse.

“As far as the executive orders that created the DOGE program and eliminated USAID—that was perfectly legal in itself—USAID was created by John F. Kennedy in 1961 by an executive order. There was a statutory direction for the president to disperse foreign aid into a comprehensive body, but it didn’t say USAID—he could do whatever he wanted. …

John F. Kennedy created the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) through Executive Order 10973 on November 3, 1961. This action followed the passage of the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961, which mandated the establishment of a single agency to coordinate foreign assistance programs. USAID was initially set up as an agency under the State Department to focus on long-term economic and social developmen

“And so, Donald Trump has decided to end an autonomous USAID and fold it into the State Department for disaster relief or poverty relief or famine relief. …“All Donald Trump is doing is saying, ‘I don’t believe the impoundment act is legal. We’ll see what the Supreme Court says—but I’m just following the precedent that Joe Biden did.’ But now, the shoe’s on the other foot.”



And so, the author is simply wrong.
 
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And? The Executive Branch clearly has the power to prosecute a war. It does not have the power of the purse.



John F. Kennedy created the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) through Executive Order 10973 on November 3, 1961. This action followed the passage of the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961, which mandated the establishment of a single agency to coordinate foreign assistance programs. USAID was initially set up as an agency under the State Department to focus on long-term economic and social developmen



And so, the author is simply wrong.
Victor David Hanson is correct about this.
 
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Lol, can anyone agree on what is wasteful spending? Then we have the USAID arguments and the go to is the humanitarian side which is not affected. Any waste takes money away from taxpayers, saving 200 billion a year might allow the government to give each working and retired person a $500 stemi check, I'm sure this will help some people on the edge.


He meant left but didn't want to offend the whole group by saying far left. You bring up a good point, what is the true definition of far left or right because the definition seems to morph over time? I see these folks as lunatic extremists if they break the law or violate my civil rights.

I believe this, we do not have good oversight with taxpayer money unless yall think there is no waste. This includes the mating habits of quail while on cocaine.
People say things like this but I wonder if the understand the implications. There was a study in the 80s of the effects of lizard venom on guinea pigs. Sounds silly and wasteful no? The research done lead directly to the creation of Ozempic and other weight loss / diabetes medication. Just because we laymen do not understand the research does not make it wasteful.
 
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People say things like this but I wonder if the understand the implications. There was a study in the 80s of the effects of lizard venom on guinea pigs. Sounds silly and wasteful no? The research done lead directly to the creation of Ozempic and other weight loss / diabetes medication. Just because we laymen do not understand the research does not make it wasteful.
Who knew we can find out things about things if we just paid someone to do just that?
 
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I bet that if he agreed with you that then you would consider him to be correct.
The only reason anyone cares about him is that he is the rare right wing reactionary with an 'academic pedigree', just not one in anything relevant to modern politics, government, or economics.
 
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People say things like this but I wonder if the understand the implications. There was a study in the 80s of the effects of lizard venom on guinea pigs. Sounds silly and wasteful no? The research done lead directly to the creation of Ozempic and other weight loss / diabetes medication. Just because we laymen do not understand the research does not make it wasteful.
They can ask me about sexual habits while on cocaine, but yes I get what you are saying. BTW some are questioning the prolonged use of Ozempic on lean muscle. I don't care which party cuts spending; it happens to be this one, and I support it.
 
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Congressional funding for expired programs​

The Congressional Budget Office recently found that Congress provided $516 billion in appropriations this fiscal year to programs that had expired under federal law.

Payment errors​

The federal government made $247 billion worth of payment errors in fiscal year 2022 and $236 billion in 2023, according to the Government Accountability Office.

Maintaining empty buildings​

Federal government agencies are using just 12% of the space in their headquarters buildings on average, according to the Public Buildings Reform Board, which is an independent federal agency focused on recommending the disposal of underutilized federal properties.

“Even before the pandemic, of the federal properties analyzed, federal occupancy was low, particularly in Washington D.C.,” the board’s report to Congress in March said.

These spaces must be furnished, which also costs money.

The House Oversight Committee spent $3.3 billion on furniture over the past few years.

That is a trillion dollars right there.

I support the initiative President Trump’s efforts to address the misuse of taxpayer money. I hope Trump administration can reduce the federal budget and bring clarity to how the US spends money.

But , Did you read when the article was written? It was last updated on November 14, 2024.
 
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They can ask me about sexual habits while on cocaine, but yes I get what you are saying. BTW some are questioning the prolonged use of Ozempic on lean muscle. I don't care which party cuts spending; it happens to be this one, and I support it.
I'm all for cutting spending. I just want it to be rational and well thought out, not performed off the cuff by an unelected and unaccountable man with an ideological axe to grind. Most certainly do not want it done as a unconstitutional power grab by the executive branch.
 
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