Doesn't daddy get a say?

[RobinRobyn]

Females are pedophiles too, so should we not look at them with suspicion too?

Sure, but since women, statistically, are less prone to be child molesters, to a lesser degree.

Also, even if a person admits to being a pedophile, assuming they have never done anything illegal, should that disqualify them from the job?

I'd say yes. Especially if my child were under that person's care.

If the man wins, is the woman forced to pay child support in the same way? Does it vary by state?

I think it depends on circumstances. Some women have paid alimony and child support.

 

[Axioma]

Daddy gets a say when daddy gets pregnant.

 

[Axioma]

To be fair, a large part of that is down to biology.. the average woman is more likely to want to care for children. It's what they (most of them) are programmed to do.

Why biology? Why not culture? Why assume that the average woman is more likely to want to care for children because of her biology, rather than because she has been taught since birth that caring for children is what women are for?

It's not biology that makes girl toys inevitably be plastic kitchens and babies.

 

[Mystman]

Why biology? Why not culture? Why assume that the average woman is more likely to want to care for children because of her biology, rather than because she has been taught since birth that caring for children is what women are for?

It's not biology that makes girl toys inevitably be plastic kitchens and babies.

True, it's probably a combination of both. But all women mammals have this whole "I should be there to feed my children!" thing (they even have organs for that specific task ), and that mindset continues even after breastfeeding, as far as I can see. Are there mammals where the male has a larger role in raising the kids than the female?

 

[PreachersWife2004]

Daddy gets a say when daddy gets pregnant.

I'd like to see these women get pregnant without "daddy"

 

[rosenherman]

Since they know what causes babies; the guy made his choice when he slept with the woman. They haven't yet made a baby without egg and sperm, so his choice to share his little swimmies with the lady in question takes for granted his agreement to whatever the lady wants to do with the child conceived.

 

[rosenherman]

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[PreachersWife2004]

Since they know what causes babies; the guy made his choice when he slept with the woman. They haven't yet made a baby without egg and sperm, so his choice to share his little swimmies with the lady in question takes for granted his agreement to whatever the lady wants to do with the child conceived.

We keep talking about HIS CHOICE to have sex...she made a choice too...and I don't understand why she isn't held to the same accountability that a man is.

And really...how independent is a women when she has to rely on the support from the sperm donor in order to be independent? It's rather hypocritical to say "this is MY body, I get to choose, but you have to pay."

It knocks the feminist movement back a good century, that's for sure.

 

[Yusuf Evans]

We keep talking about HIS CHOICE to have sex...she made a choice too...and I don't understand why she isn't held to the same accountability that a man is.

It's because society has determined in this day and age, that women are more important than men in the home life and society in general. Women are constantly being shown as superior in strenght of character and are always the one's being cheated on in the movies, and men are seen as dumb, testosterone filled creatures and bowing to the more intelligent woman lead.

 

[rosenherman]

It's because society has determined in this day and age, that women are more important than men in the home life and society in general. Women are constantly being shown as superior in strenght of character and are always the one's being cheated on in the movies, and men are seen as dumb, testosterone filled creatures and bowing to the more intelligent woman lead.

If they're smart enough to let her.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

If they're smart enough to let her.

That's as sexist as the men that the feminists railed against.

Was feminism a movement for equality or supremacy?

 

[rosenherman]

Why biology? Why not culture? Why assume that the average woman is more likely to want to care for children because of her biology, rather than because she has been taught since birth that caring for children is what women are for?

It's not biology that makes girl toys inevitably be plastic kitchens and babies.

It's almost entirely biological. Read "The Female Brain" by by Louann Brizendine, M.D. She devotes several pages to why women bond with their own children and with adopted children and why we fight so fiercely for them.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

It's almost entirely biological. Read "The Female Brain" by by Louann Brizendine, M.D. She devotes several pages to why women bond with their own children and with adopted children and why we fight so fiercely for them.

Except, of course, when the woman doesn't want them.

 

[rosenherman]

That's as sexist as the men that the feminists railed against.

Was feminism a movement for equality or supremacy?

Well, since you asked. Feminism was poorly designed in the first place. Men and women aren't equal and never will be equal. There are some intrinsically female strengths and weaknesses as well as male strengths and weaknesses. Women fare better against stress, men are physically stronger, women can handle pain better, women are more emotionally connected than men. yadda yadda we're different.

 

[rosenherman]

Except, of course, when the woman doesn't want them.

Yup, like myself. Sometimes I wish I'd had kids, but most of the time, I'm really glad I didn't.

 

[lawtonfogle]

Sure, but since women, statistically, are less prone to be child molesters, to a lesser degree.

That is not known. What is known is that in the past we have refused to consider females to be pedophiles, and that females are treated less harshly for the same sexual acts. But considering we have no way to measure pedophilia in the population, you cannot make that statement. At best, you can state of convicted child molesters, females make up less.

I'd say yes. Especially if my child were under that person's care.

I went ahead and started a new thread on this topic.

I think it depends on circumstances. Some women have paid alimony and child support.

I wonder to what extent the laws are going to be able to contend with a rise in males winning custody.

 

[lawtonfogle]

Why biology? Why not culture? Why assume that the average woman is more likely to want to care for children because of her biology, rather than because she has been taught since birth that caring for children is what women are for?

It's not biology that makes girl toys inevitably be plastic kitchens and babies.

Both actually.

 

[RobinRobyn]

We keep talking about HIS CHOICE to have sex...she made a choice too...and I don't understand why she isn't held to the same accountability that a man is.

She is. When the child is born, she is also required to care for that child, or make arrangements for care (adoption etc.)

The only differece is that she has options during pregnancy that the father doesn't have, not being the pregnant one.

And really...how independent is a women when she has to rely on the support from the sperm donor in order to be independent?

How many families today can get by one just one income? Add to that the fact that women, statistically, make less than men do, and hopefully you can see the problem.

It's rather hypocritical to say "this is MY body, I get to choose, but you have to pay."

How so? It is her body, she does get to choose. He has parental rights over the child, not the child's mother.

It knocks the feminist movement back a good century, that's for sure.

Not at all. The fact that women, on average, don't make the same amount of money as men do for the same job is a reality that needs to be changed, that's true. But the fact that women have the right to make their own decisions during pregnancy doesn't change, or affect that, at all.

 

[RobinRobyn]

That is not known. What is known is that in the past we have refused to consider females to be pedophiles, and that females are treated less harshly for the same sexual acts. But considering we have no way to measure pedophilia in the population, you cannot make that statement. At best, you can state of convicted child molesters, females make up less.

Which is why I said women were less prone to be child molesters, not pedophiles.

I wonder to what extent the laws are going to be able to contend with a rise in males winning custody.

Hopefully, they'll examine each one on a case by case basis, rather than rely on stereotypes. But you never know.