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Let's see those 400 that say you can't200 verses appear to say one can lose their salvation.....400 say you can’t......take your pick , but be aware that all the anti OSAS verses are either takeen out of context or are not addressing The Body of Christ
Let's see those 400 that say you can't
There's not any - message me if you really do have some and I'll become a believer of OSAS. That goes to anyone - but as of now I do not believe it. If you know the Bible and you have the Holy Spirit and believe OSAS, message meGoogle it.....I am a lazy man....lol
There's not any - message me if you really do have some and I'll become a believer of OSAS. That goes to anyone - but as of now I do not believe it. If you know the Bible and you have the Holy Spirit and believe OSAS, message me
Please explain to me if this supports OSAS somehow, or it simply refutes it.
The scripture is Matthew 24:48-51 KJV
Matthew 24:48-51 King James Version (KJV)
I just saw your post brother in Christ. Amen!.
This was your initial question, which I answered in my post to you #2
as to date I have not received a reply.
Now here you are 283 posts later refuting what people have supplied to you in support of OSAS.
Sounds as though you have you mind settled on NO OSAS, is that a true assessment of your belief at this point?
200 verses appear to say one can lose their salvation.....400 say you can’t......take your pick , but be aware that all the anti OSAS verses are either takeen out of context or are not addressing The Body of Christ
200 verses appear to say one can lose their salvation.....400 say you can’t......take your pick , but be aware that all the anti OSAS verses are either takeen out of context or are not addressing The Body of Christ
All believers have a choice whether to obey God or not. Belief (Jn 3:16) and obedience (Heb 5:9) are required for eternal life. Some Christians choose to obey while others choose not to and remain in their sin. Some Christians choose to continue to abide in Christ while others choose to no longer abide in Christ. Those that no longer abide - no longer have eternal life - and are thrown into the fire (Jn 15:6).1) You make it sound as though from the moment of your Salvation you have been looking for a way out of it.
2) If you read very carefully, you will see, there is no mention of a branch breaking or pruning itself off of the vine, no not at all, this is because, the husbandman is the one who does the pruning of the branches, and he prunes the ones that have produced fruit, that they would produce even more fruit, then He cuts off those unproductive branches and has them cast into the fire.
The branch can only abide in the vine until the husbandman either prunes it, or removes it.
So what is the purpose of God's grace bestowed to the believer? Is it not grace to enable the believer to abide in Christ? It's not your strength. It's the strength of God supplied through God's grace which enables you to abide in Him.I would add that it is impossible for a believer to abide also. No matter how hard we try or how often we succeed we will all ultimately fail.
So...assuming you are a genuine believer. Would you say that YOU can receive the mark of the beast and still not lose YOUR salvation since once saved always saved?200 verses appear to say one can lose their salvation.....400 say you can’t......take your pick , but be aware that all the anti OSAS verses are either takeen out of context or are not addressing The Body of Christ
1) You make it sound as though from the moment of your Salvation you have been looking for a way out of it.
2) If you read very carefully, you will see, there is no mention of a branch breaking or pruning itself off of the vine, no not at all, this is because, the husbandman is the one who does the pruning of the branches, and he prunes the ones that have produced fruit, that they would produce even more fruit, then He cuts off those unproductive branches and has them cast into the fire.
The branch can only abide in the vine until the husbandman either prunes it, or removes it.
If you don't like it ignore it and don't provide a counterpoint as you have already done. Quite simple isn't it..
That's right ignore my post, don't speak to the things I said, just post more nonsense.
So what is the purpose of God's grace bestowed to the believer? Is it not grace to enable the believer to abide in Christ? It's not your strength. It's the strength of God supplied through God's grace which enables you to abide in Him.
What does Calvinism have to do with anything as we are discussing grace. People have the choice whether to abide in God or not. Choices have consequences. If you take the mark of the beast, will you still be saved??I’m sorry friend I’m not a Calvinist. I believe in free will. We are called by God but we must make the choice to follow or not. Of what you say is true then God is ultimately responsible for everyone who will burn in the lake of fire for all eternity. That would be an unjust God and not a loving God because it wouldn’t be fair to those whom He didn’t choose.
What does Calvinism have to do with anything as we are discussing grace. People have the choice whether to abide in God or not. Choices have consequences. If you take the mark of the beast, will you still be saved??
You didn't answer my question. I asked YOU IF YOU took the mark, would you still be saved. If you reply that you would not be saved if you took the mark then OSAS is obviously false. Still waiting for your answer..
When you take the Mark of the Beast, will you take it in your hand, or proudly display it for all to see on you forehead?
At this time would you be saved or not?....Probably not right?....Free will an all.
Which means you can't back up what you say.Google it.....I am a lazy man....lol
Glad to see you learned something today!If you don't like it ignore it and don't provide a counterpoint as you have already done. Quite simple isn't it.
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