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Does this scare anyone else?

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http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,72023-0.html?tw=wn_index_2
Security researcher Christopher Soghoian created the Northwest Airline Boarding Pass Generator in the hope of spurring Congress to look closely at the nation's aviation security policies, which he calls "security theater."

The site lets anyone create a facsimile of a Northwest Airlines boarding pass, with whatever name they choose.

On Friday, Congress heard Soghoian's message loud and clear. But instead of promising to reform broken airport security procedures, Rep. Edward Markey (D- Massachusetts), a member of the House Homeland Security committee known for his defenses of privacy, wants the site shut down and Soghoian arrested.

"The Bush administration must immediately act to investigate, apprehend those responsible, shut down the website, and warn airlines and aviation security officials to be on the look-out for fraudsters or terrorists trying to use fake boarding passes in an attempt to cheat their way through security and onto a plane," Markey said in a statement Friday.

"There are enough loopholes at the back door of our passenger airplanes from not scanning cargo for bombs; we should not tolerate any new loopholes making it easier for terrorists to get into the front door of a plane."

In reality, the "loophole" is nothing new. Security expert Bruce Schneier wrote about it in 2003, and the online magazine Slate covered it as major news in 2005. Soghoian points out that Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-New York) publicized the same security hole in April 2006. "Perhaps Sen. Schumer will end up being my cellmate," Soghoian said.

Soghoian, a Ph.D. student at Indiana University, says he has never used one of the fake boarding passes, which are likely good enough to get someone through airport security into the "sanitized" area of the airport, but not good enough to get anyone on a plane. He was waiting for clearance from lawyers at Indiana University before attempting to test if the method worked to get through security.

Soghoian told Wired News Thursday he built the site to expose security holes, not to help terrorists.

"I want Congress to see how stupid the (Transportation Security Administration)'s watch lists are," he said. "Now even the most technically incompetent user can click and generate a boarding pass. By doing this, I'm hoping (Congress) will see how silly the security rules are. I don't want bad guys to board airplanes but I don't think the system we have right now works and I think it is giving us a false sense of security."

A fake boarding pass would be nearly impossible for airport screeners to detect, because they have no access to airline databases at the screening checkpoint and simply compare the name on the boarding pass to an identification card.

For its part, Northwest Airlines says it is "cooperating with law enforcement and government," and that the company verifies boarding passes using bar scanners as passengers board planes. The company says it alerts the Transportation Security Administration and the police when it catches anyone using a fraudulent boarding pass.

Now Soghoian says he's scared, and that Indiana University's lawyers told him that "the flip side of academic freedom is that the university won't defend me if there are problems."

Even if Soghoian's site is shut down, any boarding pass purchased over the web can still be easily edited in any browser. That means fliers can buy a legitimate ticket through an airline's website under a false name -- evading the TSA's no-fly list -- then use a fake boarding pass under their real name to get past airport metal detectors, the only spot where IDs are checked. Fliers prone to selection for additional screening could also create boarding passes without the "SSSS" mark that tells TSA to search them more thoroughly.

"The website in question has the potential to promote illegal activity," said TSA spokesman Christopher White. "Submitting fraudulent documents to airline security is illegal. But the site will not aid anyone in circumventing security, since a boarding pass offers entry into a TSA security checkpoint and TSA ensures that every person and their property is fully screened."

The Transportation Security Agency did not return calls for comment by press time.
No, I'm not worried anymore. Nope, not at all. Especially since the TSA spokesman assured us that every person and their property is fully screened.

http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/index.ssf?/base/news-9/1161928940141470.xml&coll=1
Screeners at Newark Liberty International Airport failed 20 of 22 security tests conducted by undercover U.S. agents last week, missing an array of concealed bombs and guns at checkpoints throughout the hub's three terminals, federal security officials familiar with the results said.

The tests, conducted Oct. 19 by U.S. Transportation Security Administration "Red Team" agents, also revealed significant failures by screeners to follow standard operating procedures while checking passengers and their baggage for prohibited items, said the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because it is against TSA policy to release covert-test results.
Nope, not worried at all.

I hope you Americans will start slapping your representatives upside the head with frozen trout, regardless of political party. This is utterly ridiculous.
 

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Nope, I'm not scared at all.

Dying in the bathtub - a 600 times more likely occurance than a terrorist attack - nope, I'm not scared of that either.

Which country is that?
 
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Which country is that?
The US.

As I was going from memory, my statistics are off. Here's an interesting read: http://www.anotherperspective.org/advoc530.html

The odds of dying in a terrorist caused plane disaster are 1 in 55,000,000, assuming one such incident per month and you fly once a month.

The odds of dying in your bathtub are 1 in 10,455.

So, dying in the bathtub is 5261 times more likely.
 
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The US.

As I was going from memory, my statistics are off. Here's an interesting read: http://www.anotherperspective.org/advoc530.html

The odds of dying in a terrorist caused plane disaster are 1 in 55,000,000, assuming one such incident per month and you fly once a month.

The odds of dying in your bathtub are 1 in 10,455.

So, dying in the bathtub is 5261 times more likely.
Do those figures factor in the possibility of dying in a bathtub that is on a plane? How about being hit by one of those planes while you are in the bathtub?
 
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It bothers me when security isn't as big an issue as it should be. Flying should be about safety first. Pilots go through intense training before they are even allowed to try for the commercial airlines. Got a Marine buddy of mine that is now working on getting his commercial license, and it's a bit stressful for him. When you add in the mix of lax security, it really presents problems for the passengers. Yes, flying is the safest form of transportation out there. However, it's the easiest one to die from should something go wrong.
 
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Our security is still a joke, yes. Is it going to change? Not very likely. The simple fact of the matter is nobody cares. Our rhetoric isn't geared towards caring, our population isn't geared towards caring. 9/11 was an 'unavoidable tragedy' not 'an easily avoidable tragedy, if basic security procedures are followed.'

Quick show of hands, how many people:

Have ActiveX controls disabled
Screen Cookies
Wipe their operating system every 6 months
Are fully up to date on all microsoft patches
Use antivirus
Use adaware and spybot, or other adware detectors
Encrypt their wireless networks
Regularly use HijackThis to check for suspicious objects


Yes? No? Not performing these steps could make you vulnerable to anything from credit card theft to jail time.

Yet you don't do them, because its not convienent. These aren't the hard ones either (encrypted hard drive, encrypted email, bios passwords, hard drive padlocks, etc). These are simple things anyone can do - and virtually no one does.

The time is minimal. The consequences potentially devistating. Yet 'it can't happen to me' is the prevailing mentality. Airports are your personal computer on a large scale.
 
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The government could do more but there are too many civil libertarians who would feel further security would violate our Constitutional rights. For example, we all know how they feel about the Patriot Act.
The Patriot Act does not one thing for what the articles Borealis provided lays out, nor for the 95% of the incoming tankers that are not inspected, nor for Nuclear proliferations, which has been all but ignored.
 
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This is no doubt a bi-partisan issue. The idea that we haven't been attack because of our ampt security is pretty delusional.
Thank you for understanding my point. This isn't a 'Republican/Democrat' talking point, it's a serious problem. Right after the election, can you people please take this issue up with your local Congressperson, regardless of which party you or they represent, and demand some immediate and real action?

'Voter' apathy isn't the only such apathy. If you don't make them do something, they won't bother.
 
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The government could do more but there are too many civil libertarians who would feel further security would violate our Constitutional rights. For example, we all know how they feel about the Patriot Act.
Civil liberties aren't the only tradeoff. Commerce suffers when strict protective measures are taken. People's lives also depend on the smooth operation of commerce. It's interesting that the movement of goods has not become as scrutinized as the movement of people. A cynic would argue that this indicates the war on terror is a sham. Searching cargo isn't visible to the general public while long airport lines are.

Civil libertarians aren't opposed to security measures. What we oppose is a lack of oversight. I want the government to keep its nose completely out of my personal business, but if (a big if) it's neccessary for me to relinquish some of my privacy, I want to be assured that a third party (the judiciary or an opposition party) is keeping those in power honest.
 
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I hope you Americans will start slapping your representatives upside the head with frozen trout, regardless of political party. This is utterly ridiculous.

What I find ridiculous is the FBI raids on Soghoian's house. The intelligent response here would be to ask Soghoian to close the website for a few days while a solution is implemented. Raiding his house and demanding that the website be shut down only makes the problem worse. Now there's all this news about a massive security vulnerability that still hasn't been closed, so anyone with an intent to exploit this need only create their own boarding pass generator.

It also confirms the points I have been bringing up previously, namely that most of the security improvements to airlines have been useless. You're not any safer because of them. Banning you from bringing a drink may make you feel safer, but it's like giving you a painkiller for tuberculosis. It will only make you blissfully unaware of how big the problem actually is.
 
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