Does the SDA Church have a position on Aliens from other planets?

[Revelation 14:6-12]

Fair enough my friend.

however, before we go any further, who are the "daughters of men" in that passage I gave ya earlier?

This question is answered in some detail here:

http://www.christianforums.com/t7560894/

 

[OntheDL]

Where does the bible say that a union between Cain and Seth's descendants is "unholy" ?

The two groups of descendents (of Cain and of Seth) are allegorical of the lineage of believers in contrast to the lineage of unbelievers.

In the bible there are too many examples of marriage went bad between believers and unbelievers. Paul warned against such union in 2 Cor 6.

 

[Lion King]

The two groups of descendents (of Cain and of Seth) are allegorical of the lineage of believers in contrast to the lineage of unbelievers.

In the bible there are too many examples of marriage went bad between believers and unbelievers. Paul warned against such union in 2 Cor 6.

Can you show me the Bible passages which attest to this?

 

[Lion King]

This question is answered in some detail here:

http://www.christianforums.com/t7560894/

No comment.

 

[OntheDL]

Can you show me the Bible passages which attest to this?

Are you asking me to show you the descendents of Seth were believers or you are just being disagreeable?

 

[Lion King]

Are you asking me to show you the descendents of Seth were believers or you are just being disagreeable?

Claim 1: "The two groups of descendents (of Cain and of Seth) are allegorical of the lineage of believers in contrast to the lineage of unbelievers."

Im simply asking you to provide Scriptural evidence for your claim, that's all.


Claim 2: "Since God had to destroy the entire mankind save the eight who believed, it's not difficult to figure out the descendents of believer Seth intermarried with the descendents of the unbeliever Cain. As a result, all became fallen."

Where does the bible say that a union between Cain and Seth's descendants is "unholy" ?

 

[Revelation 14:6-12]

Claim 1: "The two groups of descendents (of Cain and of Seth) are allegorical of the lineage of believers in contrast to the lineage of unbelievers."

Im simply asking you to provide Scriptural evidence for your claim, that's all.


Claim 2: "Since God had to destroy the entire mankind save the eight who believed, it's not difficult to figure out the descendents of believer Seth intermarried with the descendents of the unbeliever Cain. As a result, all became fallen."

Where does the bible say that a union between Cain and Seth's descendants is "unholy" ?

If you will consider the theme of the Great Controversy, between Christ Jesus and Satan, these questions become answered:

And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Genesis 3:15

The seed of the woman [his Church, children of obedience], those who "draw near to God" and "call upon the name of the Lord" and the seed of the serpent [synagogue of satan, the children of disobedience], those who say to God, "Depart from us" and then they "go out from the presence of the Lord".

Two distinct groups.

 

[OntheDL]

Im simply asking you to provide Scriptural evidence for your claim, that's all.

The story of descendents of Seth and Cain spans several chapters and books. Allegory means figurative and or implied. So you would have to read and understand the entire bible to understand allegory.

Where does the bible say that a union between Cain and Seth's descendants is "unholy" ?

It qualifies as 'unholy' if the union produced offsprings that God had to wipe off of the face of the earth.

 

[Cribstyl]

Since God had to destroy the entire mankind save the eight who believed, it's not difficult to figure out the descendents of believer Seth intermarried with the descendents of the unbeliever Cain. As a result, all became fallen.

5303. nephiyl, nef-eel'; or nephil, nef-eel'; from H5307; prop., a feller
[*], i.e. a bully or tyrant:--giant.

So the word nephiyl could describe a strongman, bully, rebel, giant physically and/or character-wise.

I suscribe to your post. The scriptures put emphisis on the warriorlike spirit that was within these famous men.

 

[Lion King]

If you will consider the theme of the Great Controversy, between Christ Jesus and Satan, these questions become answered:

And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Genesis 3:15

The seed of the woman [his Church, children of obedience], those who "draw near to God" and "call upon the name of the Lord" and the seed of the serpent [synagogue of satan, the children of disobedience], those who say to God, "Depart from us" and then they "go out from the presence of the Lord".

Two distinct groups.

Are you saying the descendants of Cain are the seed of the serpent/children of disobedience?

 

[Lion King]

The story of descendents of Seth and Cain spans several chapters and books. Allegory means figurative and or implied. So you would have to read and understand the entire bible to understand allegory.

It qualifies as 'unholy' if the union produced offsprings that God had to wipe off of the face of the earth.

I take it you do not have any Bible verses that prove the union of believers and unbelievers is "unholy" like you claim?

 

[OldStudent]

I'm I understanding you correctly?....We and Satan crew have fallen from the heavenly society.

You have the jist of it.

(So most likely aliens from other planet would not come with evil intentions or weapons of mass distruction. They would be naked and inocent.)

I know of no clues that evil exists anywhere but on this planet. Why would aliens from other planets want to come to this toxic and hazardous place? We have been granted access to the best aliens already - angels on assignment to us from around the throne of God! I know of at least a couple personal interventions by an angel. In one I was given a powerful shove that kept me from looking like strawberry jam between two vehicles.

As for being naked and innocent - Hmmm, Now there is a visual to ponder though that is no concern where sin induced self-consciousness is absent. When angels have shown themselves that was never a quality noted.

 

[OldStudent]

i don't mean to intrude or insult your faith, but this discussion is hilarious, to be honest.

What do you mean by sons of God?

Yes, we can have fun with off beat questions. Why not?

"Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God" Lk 3:38. Satan ripped off Adam. Jesus bought back representation rights. With what Hubble has shown us of the vast real estate God created, are we so egotistical as to think we are the only world of intelligent beings? One of my dreams for filling some of that vast time in eternity getting to know those guys.

(giggle, giggle)

 

[Stryder06]

Do you deny that the nephilim were a hybrid between two distinct races?

Hybrid? Do you consider the baby or a black man and white woman to be a hybrid?

 

[Cribstyl]

You have the jist of it.

Holding on to a false understanding about Satan's power and authority does not come from God. The fact that Satan appears in heaven is as the adversary of man (1Pe 5:8), and the accuser of the brethren (every man,) evey day.Zec 3:1 Rev 12:10 .

I know of no clues that evil exists anywhere but on this planet. Why would aliens from other planets want to come to this toxic and hazardous place?

I take it that you dont have a clue if God planted trees of life and trees of knowledge of Good and evil on other planets?
Let's just take God's word as truth and try to live accordinf to it.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

I take it that you dont have a clue if God planted trees of life and trees of knowledge of Good and evil on other planets?

In case you missed the first posting...

From Early Writings p. 39-40

The Lord has given me a view of other worlds. Wings were given me, and an angel attended me from the city to a place that was bright and glorious. The grass of the place was living green, and the birds there
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warbled a sweet song. The inhabitants of the place were of all sizes; they were noble, majestic, and lovely. They bore the express image of Jesus, and their countenances beamed with holy joy, expressive of the freedom and happiness of the place. I asked one of them why they were so much more lovely than those on the earth. The reply was, "We have lived in strict obedience to the commandments of God, and have not fallen by disobedience, like those on the earth." Then I saw two trees, one looked much like the tree of life in the city. The fruit of both looked beautiful, but of one they could not eat. They had power to eat of both, but were forbidden to eat of one. Then my attending angel said to me, "None in this place have tasted of the forbidden tree; but if they should eat, they would fall." Then I was taken to a world which had seven moons. There I saw good old Enoch, who had been translated. On his right arm he bore a glorious palm, and on each leaf was written "Victory." Around his head was a dazzling white wreath, and leaves on the wreath, and in the middle of each leaf was written "Purity," and around the wreath were stones of various colors, that shone brighter than the stars, and cast a reflection upon the letters and magnified them. On the back part of his head was a bow that confined the wreath, and upon the bow was written "Holiness." Above the wreath was a lovely crown that shone brighter than the sun. I asked him if this was the place he was taken to from the earth. He said, "It is not; the city is my home, and I have come to visit this place." He moved about the place as if perfectly at home. I begged of my attending angel to let me remain in that place. I could not bear the thought of coming back to this dark world again. Then the angel said, "You must go back, and if you are faithful, you, with the 144,000, shall have the privilege of visiting all the worlds and viewing the handiwork of God."
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[BobRyan]

I take it you do not have any Bible verses that prove the union of believers and unbelievers is "unholy" like you claim?

Just the Bible - as in the case of 2 Cor 6:14 telling Christians not to be unequally yoked.
14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

But we don't claim that the giants that lived before the flood are flying UFOs - so unless you are promoting that - it is off topic.

 

[BobRyan]

i don't mean to intrude or insult your faith, but this discussion is hilarious, to be honest.

What do you mean by sons of God?

Read John chapter 1 much? John 1:12
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

 

[BobRyan]

This is a fellowship post and the question is something I would like to know....
...If an alien space-craft was observed by a major news network.
...And it was validated by SDA's living in the area of the visit.
...Does the SDA Church have a protocol for such an event?
...If so what is it?

Same protocol for those who claim that they are talking to the dead, or talking to a ghost, or meeting an alien from a UFO --

We claim it is all deception. It is all aliens -- not from earth - it is all of the devil.

 

[BobRyan]

In case you missed the first posting...

Yes but that is the "good aliens" and they are not at all involved in the "UFO" events seen on earth.

Good angels are also "good aliens" and they are not from Earth.
Beings on other worlds are all "good aliens".

But the devil and his angels are "bad aliens" whether they claim to be dead people, or ghosts, or beings from another planet just visiting.