Does the Qur'an teach violence?

[Ibrahim]

Does the Qur’an Teach Violence?
Q: Does Islam really teach peace? I am a Christian and I do not hate Muslims, but I read in the Qur’an verses like, “And slay them wherever ye catch them..” (2:191) and “…But if they turn away, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks.” (4:89). How can a peaceful religion teach these things? How do you explain these verses. These quotations from your Holy Book do really make us very uneasy with your faith. I would appreciate your reply.

A: Thank you very much for your kind words that you do not hate Muslims. Hate is not good for any person. I want to assure you that we Muslims also do not hate non-Muslims, be they Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhist or followers of any religion or no religion. Our religions does not allow killing any innocent person regardless of his or her religion. The life of all human beings is sacrosanct according to the teachings of the Qur’an and the guidance of our blessed Prophet Muhammad -peace be upon him and upon all the Prophets and Messengers of Allah.

The Qur’an says about the prohibition of murder, “…Take not life, which Allah hath made sacred, except by way of justice and law: thus does He command you, that ye may learn wisdom.” (al-An’am 6:151) and Allah says in the Qur’an, “Nor take life - which Allah has made sacred - except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, We have given his heir authority (to demand Qisas or to forgive): but let him not exceed bounds in the matter of taking life; for he is helped (by the law)” (al-Isra’ 17:33). According to the Qur’an, killing any person without a just cause is as big a sin as killing the whole humanity and saving the life of one person is as good deed as saving the whole humanity. (See al-Ma’idah 5:32)

However, your question is valid then how come the Qur’an says, “kill them wherever you find them…” as it is mentioned in Surah al-Baqarah 2:191 and Surah al-Nisa’ 4:89. The answer is simple and that is you should read these verses in their textual and historical context. You should read the whole verse and it is better that you read few verses before and few after. Read the full text and see what is said:

“Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loves not transgressors. And kill them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, kill them. Such is the reward of those who reject faith. But if they cease, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression. The prohibited month, for the prohibited month, and so for all things prohibited, there is the law of equality. If then any one transgresses the prohibition against you, transgress ye likewise against him. But fear Allah, and know that Allah is with those who restrain themselves.” (al-Baqarah 2:190-194)

For your second quotation also read the full text:

“They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): so take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (from what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks. Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (Of peace), or those who approach you with hearts restraining them from fighting you as well as fighting their own people. If Allah had pleased, He could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you: therefore if they withdraw from you but fight you not, and (instead) send you (guarantees of) peace, then Allah hath opened no way for you (to war against them). Others you will find that wish to gain your confidence as well as that of their people: every time they are sent back to temptation, they succumb thereto; if they withdraw not from you nor give you (guarantees) of peace besides restraining their hands, seize them and slay them wherever ye get them; in their case We have provided you with a clear argument against them. (Al-Nisa’ 4:89-91)

Now tell me honestly, do these verses give a free permission to kill any one any where? These verses were revealed by God to Prophet Muhammad at the time when Muslims were attacked by the non-Muslims of Makkah on a regular basis. They were frightening the Muslim community of Madinah. One may say using the contemporary jargon that there were constant terrorist attacks on Madinah and in this situation Muslims were given permission to fight back the “terrorist”. These verses are not a permission for “terrorism” but they are a warning against the “terrorists.” But even in these warnings you can see how much restraint and care is emphasized.

It is important that we study the religious texts in their proper context. When these texts are not read in their proper textual and historical contexts they are manipulated and distorted. It is true that some Muslims manipulate these verses for their own goals. But this is not only with Islamic texts, it is also true with the texts of other religions. I can quote dozens of verses from the Bible which seem very violent, if taken out from their historical context. These Biblical texts have been used by many violent Jewish and Christian groups. Crusaders used them against Muslims and Jews. Nazis used them against Jews. Recently Serbian Christians used them against Bosnian Muslims. Zionists are using them regularly against Palestinians.

Let me mention just a few verses from the Old Testament and New Testament and tell me what do you say about them:

“When the LORD your God brings you into the land where you are entering to possess it, and clears away many nations before you, the Hittites and the Girga*****s and the Amorites and the Canaanites and the Perizzites and the Hivites and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and stronger than you. And when the LORD your God delivers them before you and you defeat them, then you shall utterly destroy them. You shall make no covenant with them and show no favor to them. (Deutronomy 7:1-2)

“When you approach a city to fight against it, you shall offer it terms of peace. If it agrees to make peace with you and opens to you, then all the people who are found in it shall become your forced labor and shall serve you. However, if it does not make peace with you, but makes war against you, then you shall besiege it. When the LORD your God gives it into your hand, you shall strike all the men in it with the edge of the sword. Only the women and the children and the animals and all that is in the city, all its spoil, you shall take as booty for yourself; and you shall use the spoil of your enemies which the LORD your God has given you… Only in the cities of these peoples that the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, you shall not leave alive anything that breathes (Deutronomy 20:10-17)

Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, sparefor yourselves. (Numbers 31:17-18)

Even in the New Testament we read the following statement attributed to Jesus saying to his disciples:

“I tell you that to everyone who has, more shall be given, but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away. But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence. (Luke 19:26-27)

 

[Gilgamesh]

Does the Qur’an Teach Violence?
Q: Does Islam really teach peace? I am a Christian and I do not hate Muslims, but I read in the Qur’an verses like, “And slay them wherever ye catch them..” (2:191) and “…But if they turn away, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks.” (4:89). How can a peaceful religion teach these things? How do you explain these verses. These quotations from your Holy Book do really make us very uneasy with your faith. I would appreciate your reply.

A: Thank you very much for your kind words that you do not hate Muslims. Hate is not good for any person. I want to assure you that we Muslims also do not hate non-Muslims, be they Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhist or followers of any religion or no religion. Our religions does not allow killing any innocent person regardless of his or her religion. The life of all human beings is sacrosanct according to the teachings of the Qur’an and the guidance of our blessed Prophet Muhammad -peace be upon him and upon all the Prophets and Messengers of Allah.

The Qur’an says about the prohibition of murder, “…Take not life, which Allah hath made sacred, except by way of justice and law: thus does He command you, that ye may learn wisdom.” (al-An’am 6:151) and Allah says in the Qur’an, “Nor take life - which Allah has made sacred - except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, We have given his heir authority (to demand Qisas or to forgive): but let him not exceed bounds in the matter of taking life; for he is helped (by the law)” (al-Isra’ 17:33). According to the Qur’an, killing any person without a just cause is as big a sin as killing the whole humanity and saving the life of one person is as good deed as saving the whole humanity. (See al-Ma’idah 5:32)

However, your question is valid then how come the Qur’an says, “kill them wherever you find them…” as it is mentioned in Surah al-Baqarah 2:191 and Surah al-Nisa’ 4:89. The answer is simple and that is you should read these verses in their textual and historical context. You should read the whole verse and it is better that you read few verses before and few after. Read the full text and see what is said:

“Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loves not transgressors. And kill them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, kill them. Such is the reward of those who reject faith. But if they cease, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression. The prohibited month, for the prohibited month, and so for all things prohibited, there is the law of equality. If then any one transgresses the prohibition against you, transgress ye likewise against him. But fear Allah, and know that Allah is with those who restrain themselves.” (al-Baqarah 2:190-194)

For your second quotation also read the full text:

“They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): so take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (from what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks. Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (Of peace), or those who approach you with hearts restraining them from fighting you as well as fighting their own people. If Allah had pleased, He could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you: therefore if they withdraw from you but fight you not, and (instead) send you (guarantees of) peace, then Allah hath opened no way for you (to war against them). Others you will find that wish to gain your confidence as well as that of their people: every time they are sent back to temptation, they succumb thereto; if they withdraw not from you nor give you (guarantees) of peace besides restraining their hands, seize them and slay them wherever ye get them; in their case We have provided you with a clear argument against them. (Al-Nisa’ 4:89-91)

Now tell me honestly, do these verses give a free permission to kill any one any where? These verses were revealed by God to Prophet Muhammad at the time when Muslims were attacked by the non-Muslims of Makkah on a regular basis. They were frightening the Muslim community of Madinah. One may say using the contemporary jargon that there were constant terrorist attacks on Madinah and in this situation Muslims were given permission to fight back the “terrorist”. These verses are not a permission for “terrorism” but they are a warning against the “terrorists.” But even in these warnings you can see how much restraint and care is emphasized.

It is important that we study the religious texts in their proper context. When these texts are not read in their proper textual and historical contexts they are manipulated and distorted. It is true that some Muslims manipulate these verses for their own goals. But this is not only with Islamic texts, it is also true with the texts of other religions. I can quote dozens of verses from the Bible which seem very violent, if taken out from their historical context. These Biblical texts have been used by many violent Jewish and Christian groups. Crusaders used them against Muslims and Jews. Nazis used them against Jews. Recently Serbian Christians used them against Bosnian Muslims. Zionists are using them regularly against Palestinians.

Let me mention just a few verses from the Old Testament and New Testament and tell me what do you say about them:

“When the LORD your God brings you into the land where you are entering to possess it, and clears away many nations before you, the Hittites and the Girga*****s and the Amorites and the Canaanites and the Perizzites and the Hivites and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and stronger than you. And when the LORD your God delivers them before you and you defeat them, then you shall utterly destroy them. You shall make no covenant with them and show no favor to them. (Deutronomy 7:1-2)

“When you approach a city to fight against it, you shall offer it terms of peace. If it agrees to make peace with you and opens to you, then all the people who are found in it shall become your forced labor and shall serve you. However, if it does not make peace with you, but makes war against you, then you shall besiege it. When the LORD your God gives it into your hand, you shall strike all the men in it with the edge of the sword. Only the women and the children and the animals and all that is in the city, all its spoil, you shall take as booty for yourself; and you shall use the spoil of your enemies which the LORD your God has given you… Only in the cities of these peoples that the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, you shall not leave alive anything that breathes (Deutronomy 20:10-17)

Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, sparefor yourselves. (Numbers 31:17-18)

Even in the New Testament we read the following statement attributed to Jesus saying to his disciples:

“I tell you that to everyone who has, more shall be given, but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away. But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence. (Luke 19:26-27)

Yeah but I think when Jesus said that he was speaking in a parable and not literally.

 

[PaladinValer]

It is meant, but it is still a parable. It explains how those during the Last Judgment who are found guilty will be thrown into Hell along with the Devil and his demonic hoarde.

Still, the rest of Ibrahim's post is valid; that is the orthodox Muslim interpretation of those parts of the Qur'an. It really isn't fair for us to read their Qur'an however we like just as it isn't fair for Muslims to read our Holy Bible however they like. Both sides need to be educated me thinks...

...although I still do believe that the Qur'an sometimes, when it borrows parallels from the New Testament, gets the context of the NT wrong or ignores it altogether. I find the Qur'an fascinating, but not the Word of God like I view the Bible (and only the Bible).

 

[Gilgamesh]

It is meant, but it is still a parable. It explains how those during the Last Judgment who are found guilty will be thrown into Hell along with the Devil and his demonic hoarde.

Still, the rest of Ibrahim's post is valid; that is the orthodox Muslim interpretation of those parts of the Qur'an. It really isn't fair for us to read their Qur'an however we like just as it isn't fair for Muslims to read our Holy Bible however they like. Both sides need to be educated me thinks...

...although I still do believe that the Qur'an sometimes, when it borrows parallels from the New Testament, gets the context of the NT wrong or ignores it altogether. I find the Qur'an fascinating, but not the Word of God like I view the Bible (and only the Bible).

Yes, I agree with this. I am not personally a Muslim, however the Qur'an is a fascinating book and some of its advice is sound. It is of enormous value to understanding the Middle East and breaking down the culture barrier that seems to divide everyone these days, just like one must read the Bhagavad Gita and the Upanishads to understand the Hindus. For a person like me who loves history, religion, and culture the Qur'an and all other spiritual literature are invaluable.

 

[marc37]

may I ask you have I not faith by being a christian to moslims?
I respect your religion though it is probable your holy book contains mistakes,you say the same about the bible,which [correct me if Im wrong]the qur'an has copied lots of texts out.
personally I believe in dying in the name of god,not killing in the name of god.
to serve and honour god you dont need a membership[moslim,christian]but you live as god ment you to do and worship and thank him for all that he gave you.
the holy war isnt fought with guns and blades its a battle inside each and every man and woman.

 

[brian78]

“They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): so take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (from what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks. Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (Of peace), or those who approach you with hearts restraining them from fighting you as well as fighting their own people. If Allah had pleased, He could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you: therefore if they withdraw from you but fight you not, and (instead) send you (guarantees of) peace, then Allah hath opened no way for you (to war against them). Others you will find that wish to gain your confidence as well as that of their people: every time they are sent back to temptation, they succumb thereto; if they withdraw not from you nor give you (guarantees) of peace besides restraining their hands, seize them and slay them wherever ye get them; in their case We have provided you with a clear argument against them. (Al-Nisa’ 4:89-91)

Ibrahim,

These verses still scare me. As a christian, I'm called to share my faith with others. I will not force anyone to believe as I do, but I will tell them about the saving grace of Jesus.

"They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): "

So, if I come to you and share my faith in Jesus to you and "wish that you reject Islam", then you can kill me?

Am I interpreting this wrong?

Thank you.

 

[Ibrahim]

Well yes actually you are making a wrong interrpretation. Allah does not say to kill you for trying to take me from him BUT he is saying we should take the right precausions to sstay away from such people are guard ourselves against those who wish to turn us away from Allah.
In response to marc, I find your words backed with a lack of proof. You say the Quran is "copied" of many other texts? Hopw can God's word be copied from his two previous messages? That is like saying the New testament has a lot copied from the old. Of course it may seem as such because God is not going to drastically change his word but you do see a new message given in the Gospel compared to the Torah. This is the same for the Quran compared to his previous revelations. In fact Allah talks about this and explains this to us for this very reason. If you studied the entire Quran in it's Arabic text you would see a unique text especially how the entire Quran can have so much insight and magnittude as the previous texts yet it all can be recited in mellody, every single Surah and ayat have it own and unique recitation that is unmatched in beauty by anything on this earth.

 

[brian78]

Well, if I met you on the street, and handed you a gospel tract and told you that Jesus is the only way to heaven. What do you do then? Throw the tract in the trash and leave, or kill me?

I guess my question then is... When does guarding yourself against me turn into killing me?

 

[HumbleSiPilot77]

Allah does not say to kill you for trying to take me from him BUT he is saying we should take the right precausions to sstay away from such people are guard ourselves against those who wish to turn us away from Allah.

Ibrahim, what kind of precautions are these? And are these precautions revealed in any islamic text?

And I notice that the surah says "if they turn renegades" you are to slay them. For example, if a Christian is sharing his faith with you, how can he turn a renegade? Can you explain this in the historical context? Because this doesn't sound as it fits this era. If it indeed is not for this era, so does this mean, the surah is not to be used?

 

[Gilgamesh]

Well yes actually you are making a wrong interrpretation. Allah does not say to kill you for trying to take me from him BUT he is saying we should take the right precausions to sstay away from such people are guard ourselves against those who wish to turn us away from Allah.
In response to marc, I find your words backed with a lack of proof. You say the Quran is "copied" of many other texts? Hopw can God's word be copied from his two previous messages? That is like saying the New testament has a lot copied from the old. Of course it may seem as such because God is not going to drastically change his word but you do see a new message given in the Gospel compared to the Torah. This is the same for the Quran compared to his previous revelations. In fact Allah talks about this and explains this to us for this very reason. If you studied the entire Quran in it's Arabic text you would see a unique text especially how the entire Quran can have so much insight and magnittude as the previous texts yet it all can be recited in mellody, every single Surah and ayat have it own and unique recitation that is unmatched in beauty by anything on this earth.

Yes, for Christians, it is a very bad idea to say that the Qur'an is merely copied from the Bible. Debate between Muslims and Christians should mainly concern the nature of God, original sin, and Jesus, as opposed to simply saying nonsense such as "We don't worship the same God; Allah is not the God of the Bible (hint: Jesus spoke Aramaic, in which the word for God is Allaha. Allah is a natural linguistic evolution of that word, as Arabic and Aramaic are both in the semitic language group) or "The Qur'an is just copied from the Bible." Those are truly logical fallacies of a tremendous magnitude.

 

[Gilgamesh]

Well, if I met you on the street, and handed you a gospel tract and told you that Jesus is the only way to heaven. What do you do then? Throw the tract in the trash and leave, or kill me?

I guess my question then is... When does guarding yourself against me turn into killing me?

I suppose it crosses that line when you start beating him in the head, shoulders, and back with a bamboo stick with the intent of causing either death or severe brain damage.

 

[HumbleSiPilot77]

I suppose it crosses that line when you start beating him in the head, shoulders, and back with a bamboo stick with the intent of causing either death or severe brain damage.

Whoa, for the cause of witnessing? I hope noone is witnessing Jesus that way...

 

[Ibrahim]

Renegades are men such as the caner brothers who turn from Allah, and attempt to turn mass amounts of people away from it and also make chrsitians think less of Islam than they already do. I know what you will say but the fact is when i became muslim i met with more Christians, more priests, and more non muslims than i would have if i did not become muslim. Islam has made me into the man i am today. I feel what these brothers are doing is making our religion less than credible and making profit off there converstion. I want to take the time to know them more and read more of their "work". They say many wrong and horrible things, for example, Once you leave Islam you can never return. That is such a grave error and plain out wrong to say. I know a Brother Shampsudin who was raised Born again Christian, turned toward satanism, then toward mysticism and then discovered Islam and became a changed man. Five years later he left Islam, came back, left again, and came back once more on his own accord. Allah always forgives us for all of our sins if we turn to him after we committ sin, no matter what sin it could be. If you die upon disbelief than you may not be forgiven but there is no assurance that you definetly will go to Hell fire or go to paradise. Allah says the only time you will not be forgiven by the time you reach death is Shirk (association partners with Allah) and taking the side of the Anti-Christ when he appears. These are the only sins that can be"gauranteed" that you deserve hell fire.
Allah knows all and sees all, i must remind you though Allah says he is the most forgiving, im sure as Christians you realise that and love that as one of his great qualities.

 

[Ibrahim]

"Well, if I met you on the street, and handed you a gospel tract and told you that Jesus is the only way to heaven"

LoL this has already happened to me quite a few times. I think it is ridiculous when Christians accuse muslims of such intolerance when it really doesnt exist. Especially when your ready translated tect and taking it OUT of context. I don't know what more i can say other than muslims are not to be intolerant toward disbeleivers or Christians and such acts are just barbarism and not the actions of a muslim man. Islam plain and simply does not allow such acts of violence, for Allah loves not the aggressors. The worst thing that could happen to you for doing such would be to be sent back to your homeland with your own people. Islam also doesnt allow "missionaries" nor does it allow muslims to be going to other peoples homes and trying to persuade them to follow Allah. I became muslim without the help or influence of any muslim person, in fact i met my first muslim 2 years after i made my shahada. Wallahi

 

[HumbleSiPilot77]

Let me kindly give you a brotherly advice dear Ibo,

The more you keep growing grudge against Caner brothers, the worser you are going to get

Renegades are men such as the caner brothers who turn from Allah, and attempt to turn mass amounts of people away from it and also make chrsitians think less of Islam than they already do.

You name them renegades, does that also give the right to slay them per Quran? Let me explain how you are wrong, because you are speaking out of emotions, which is understandable, not because you indeed know Caners truely. They don't attempt to turn mass amounts from God, they are preaching their version of God, they believe it is true, which I believe it is true. Furthermore, they don't hypnotize people, they offer information, whether it is wrong or not, it is the people's (of their audience) decision to agree or not. Their work makes both Christians and muslims to research more, so noone blindly accepts what they have to say. The tone of your posts doesn't sound very tolerant towards them. I invite you to be tolerant and loving towards them and examine their work. You also need to listen and read to their work in the proper context, they also talk about many of the common traiditional belief systems within islam, and that doesn't necessarily mean that represents islam.

I do agree, Jesus Christ and Christianity made me into the man I am today, so I again see most important thing is tolerance and friendship.

 

[Gilgamesh]

Whoa, for the cause of witnessing? I hope noone is witnessing Jesus that way...

Hopefully not. I was exaggerating a bit. I don't think there's anyone running around with a bamboo stick beating up non-Christians or anything like that. Although I suppose some very extremist and slightly insane Christians could make a case for it by screaming, "THIS IS THE PAIN THAT JESUS WENT THROUGH FOR YOU, NOW YOU MUST ACCEPT HIM INTO YOUR HEART." Still, I hardly think it happens. If a person tried carrying a bamboo stick around as a weapon in the streets probably someone would arrest him.

 

[Ibrahim]

I undertand what your saying. I am not speaking from passion right now but perhaps i have more to learn about these men, i am reacting to the video i saw of them and how they talked about Islam. I'd like to research further into their work though. I can truely say i do not hate anyone but a few, although ido not let hate overwhelm me and let it take control or make me act irrational. The ones i do hate are the ones who oppress and kill without justification. Allah says hate comes fro msatan and satan only, to let hate flow from you is to let satan flow through you.

 

[HumbleSiPilot77]

Hopefully not. I was exaggerating a bit. I don't think there's anyone running around with a bamboo stick beating up non-Christians or anything like that. Although I suppose some very extremist and slightly insane Christians could make a case for it by screaming, "THIS IS THE PAIN THAT JESUS WENT THROUGH FOR YOU, NOW YOU MUST ACCEPT HIM INTO YOUR HEART." Still, I hardly think it happens. If a person tried carrying a bamboo stick around as a weapon in the streets probably someone would arrest him.

Hehehe... Well, we have those slightly insane ones, they should be reminded that it was not the physical torture of Jesus paid the debt of our sins...

By the way, there is an interesting book coming, while we were talking about Caners I have noticed...

Looks like a good book...

 

[HumbleSiPilot77]

I undertand what your saying. I am not speaking from passion right now but perhaps i have more to learn about these men, i am reacting to the video i saw of them and how they talked about Islam. I'd like to research further into their work though. I can truely say i do not hate anyone but a few, although ido not let hate overwhelm me and let it take control or make me act irrational. The ones i do hate are the ones who oppress and kill without justification. Allah says hate comes fro msatan and satan only, to let hate flow from you is to let satan flow through you.

Good, I am glad that you are in control of yourself, I see you know your deal and don't let the satan flow through you ...

 

[transientlife]

may I ask you have I not faith by being a christian to moslims?
I respect your religion though it is probable your holy book contains mistakes,you say the same about the bible,which [correct me if Im wrong]the qur'an has copied lots of texts out.
personally I believe in dying in the name of god,not killing in the name of god.
to serve and honour god you dont need a membership[moslim,christian]but you live as god ment you to do and worship and thank him for all that he gave you.
the holy war isnt fought with guns and blades its a battle inside each and every man and woman.

Very interesting post, Marc Yes, why can't we all have a modicum of respect for those that practice differently than us, whether or not we agree with their views?