Simple question. I heard a Christian speaker talking about possible life on mars recently, and I couldn't decide if the bible says there is or isn't other intellegent life. I'd tend to think 'no'....but if there were, they'd have to be like us, right? Created "in the image of God"? What do you all think?
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Does the Bible Allow for Life on Mars?
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i think there is other intellegent life in the universe.--hopefully more intellegent then we are. i don t think they would have to be like us or even humanoid for that matter.
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Aceldama
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http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/194.asp
That article is from a creationist site, the views held there seem to show that they believe that Earth is the only planet with life in the entire universe, because apparently life can only come about by a holy creation process and if God did create life elsewhere he would include that in the bible somewhere.
It seems that we are coming close to finding life on Mars, what with all the new findings showing that there is more water in the martian poles and other areas than previously thought. The radiation is rather high over there though, but I bet theres at least a few microbes hiding under the soil there.
That article is from a creationist site, the views held there seem to show that they believe that Earth is the only planet with life in the entire universe, because apparently life can only come about by a holy creation process and if God did create life elsewhere he would include that in the bible somewhere.
It seems that we are coming close to finding life on Mars, what with all the new findings showing that there is more water in the martian poles and other areas than previously thought. The radiation is rather high over there though, but I bet theres at least a few microbes hiding under the soil there.
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Perhaps Genesis contains only the creation story for THIS planet. That's a possible interpretation.
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One thing to remember is there is a difference between "life" and "inteligent Life"
I believe both have a possibility to exist beyond our little planet. Although the chances of finding it are going to be slim to none (especially for inteligent life).
Im not really sure if the bible even mentions that there are other planets, let alone life on other planets.
besides, I see the bible as a spiritual book, not a scientific one.
Also, one thing thats interesting is that the past interpretations of the bible have always put humans as the most important things, and slowly we have begun to realize just how small we are compared to everything.
I think the realization that we arent as important as we think we are, will lead to humbleness, something that Jesus had, something that is closer to perfection than arrogance.
I believe both have a possibility to exist beyond our little planet. Although the chances of finding it are going to be slim to none (especially for inteligent life).
Im not really sure if the bible even mentions that there are other planets, let alone life on other planets.
besides, I see the bible as a spiritual book, not a scientific one.
Also, one thing thats interesting is that the past interpretations of the bible have always put humans as the most important things, and slowly we have begun to realize just how small we are compared to everything.
I think the realization that we arent as important as we think we are, will lead to humbleness, something that Jesus had, something that is closer to perfection than arrogance.
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Nathan Poe
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It would have to be. Unless you believe that the Earth is the center of the universe, and that everything else out there is just for pretty lights in the sky.
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I think that "in the image of god" means in his spiritual image not physical. There could be intellegent life out there that doesn't look like us. All they would need are the same charateristics of the soul as we have here on earth.
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I sometimes wonder,
What if God created us in Mars, and after we sinned, he sent us here to earth...
Because life here on earth prevents us from living forever, oxygen makes us age, and in result we die. Maybe our eden was in mars.
--Osiris
What if God created us in Mars, and after we sinned, he sent us here to earth...
Because life here on earth prevents us from living forever, oxygen makes us age, and in result we die. Maybe our eden was in mars.
--Osiris
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fragmentsofdreams
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I don't think so. That's excedingly complicated, and I don't see any passages in the Bible nor scientific evidence to support this.
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Christmas is not in the bible, yet people follow it.
Just because it isn't in the bible doesn't mean it can't be true. (My Idea is just like christmas, it can't be proved, just some of the possibilities, just like god creating us through evolution). If God had created us on this planet, that means that the plants would have been totally different, and we wouldn't have breathed oxygen, we probably would breath some other gas to stay alive. And if we were on Mars first, we could have originally breathed some other gas to stay alive, making us immortal.
The bible says that God kicked us out from the Garden of Eden, then can't we go back to it after they were kicked out? If it's on earth, yes, because we have inhabited all parts of the earth, including the "garden of eden" even if we don't know we are in it or even if it's destroyed.
And for the scientific evidence, scientist have found that rivers did flow in the surface of mars at one time. Adam & Eve were the only ones alive at that time and the animals as well. God could have transported us here, he's an all powerfull god, i think he would be able to. No deaths could have occurred while we were at mars, maybe there were no fossils left. This is something I came up with and I'm not forcing you to believe in it, it's just something I was just pondering on.
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Also, I would like to add, there is no scientific evidence to support a 6 Day Creation of Everything.
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fragmentsofdreams
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However, the Nativity is. Christmas is just a feast day to celebrate the Nativity.
1. The Bible never says that Adam and Eve were immortal before the Fall. God guarded the tree of life so that they would not live forever.
2. A literal reading of Genesis states that immortality would come from eating a fruit not from breathing the air. If one wants to interpret this literally, it has to be a fruit.
3. They way that our bodies are set up means that we cannot live without oxygen. There is not oxygenless atmosphere that could allow us to survive ten minutes let alone forever.
Mars is also accesable to humans. Placing the Garden of Eden on Mars would still leave the Garden vulnerable to human return.
1. Those rivers dried up millions of years ago. They could not have been from the time of Eden.
2. Evidence of rivers is not evidence of humans living on Mars.
3. My point was that if the Bible does not imply Eden was on Mars and there is likewise no scientific evidence implying this, what reason is there to believe this? I might as well believe that Iggy, the invisible magic elf is sitting on my desk.
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Did Jesus ever celebrate his nativity?? Because the bible never mentions Jesus celbrating it, does that mean he wants us to celebrate it???
No, God guarded the tree so they would live forever.
The bible says after man's sin, death came to humanity,
, you did know that the bible is saying here that Adam and Eve were immortal before tha fall...Immortal:
- Not subject to death: <CITE>immortal deities; the immortal soul.</CITE>
- Never to be forgotten; everlasting: <CITE>immortal words.</CITE>
- Of or relating to immortality.
- <I>Biology.</I> Capable of indefinite growth or division. Used of cells in culture.
No, a literal reading of Genesis states that "mortality" would come from eating the fruit. (I have a feeling that you are confused with the words: immortal & mortal)
I'm not trying to interpret anything from the bible here. I'm using science on this one, and I can see that you are not aware of this. Oxygen is a deadly gas, if you contain it by itself it is highly flammable, it also rusts metals("oxidation"). Scientists have also come to discover that us, like the metals, do rust or oxidation occurs in our body, but we call it "aging". Aging is the result of the oxygen tearing away the mitochondria cells through time. At some point, the mitochondria cells can't handle it, and these free oxygen radicals are set free inside our bodies destroying other cells. So, if we were to live forever, it would have to be under a different environment.
You are doubting the power of God?? saying that he can't provide us with a gas other than oxygen to help us stay alive??
We can hardly make it to our moon, mars is not accessable to us 'yet', and even if we go there, it is uninhabitable.
The earth was created billions of years ago. Heh, maybe a 6 day creation could be possible in mars.
(carbon dating could result different there)True, but is evidence that it was possible to sustain life.
The bible does not imply the earth is round.
The bible does not imply that everyone was a female once.
The bible does not imply oxygen kills you and at the same time helps you survive.
The bible does not imply how god created the universe.
The bible does not imply Jesus celebrated his own birthday, or Christmas(jesus' birthday could be different than christmas).
Even though i'm not saying this happened, this is just one of my theories. I've also thought that, if we didn't live on mars, God changed the plants here on earth to create oxygen instead of some other gas.
--Osiris
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