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Does Tenure Create Creationists?

JohnR7

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Just your evidence that falsify the theory of evolution will do.
There are people on here, and I think you are one of them who claim that no matter what I say, they are going to deny it. So why should I let you set me up and bait me like that? It is very obvious that you have no intention at all of being objective.
 
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There are people on here, and I think you are one of them who claim that no matter what I say, they are going to deny it. So why should I let you set me up and bait me like that? It is very obvious that you have no intention at all of being objective.

Ask for evidence, get paranoia. Perhaps people don't believe you because you don't tell them anything?
 
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John, the problem is not that you beleive what you beleive. The problem is that you think that what you beleive is scientific. If you want to play any specific game, you have to play by the rules of that game.

No one EVEN forced you to play the science game. You decided to play the science game yourself. Now that you started playing, you have to play by the rules, or quit. Its really that simple.

Science has certain rules, and since you want your theory to be labeled as scientific, you need to play by these rules. I repeat, it was YOUR decition to play the science game!

Now, what you will have to do, is give evicence for your theory. It is important to realise that not anything counts as evidence. Just because something is possible, does not mean that its possibility counts as evidence. It only sais that it is not impossible.

The existence of a hypothesis cannot count as evidence for itself.

GAP theory is a hypothesis. The existence of this hypothesis cannot count as evidence for itself. You need to provide evidence that supports your hypothesis.
 
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John, the problem is not that you beleive what you beleive. The problem is that you think that what you beleive is scientific. If you want to play any specific game, you have to play by the rules of that game.

I do not need science to back up what I believe. People just keep asking me for scientific evidence for what I beleive. So I give them that evidence. It is up to them what they want to do with the evidence once I give it to them.
 
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There are people on here, and I think you are one of them who claim that no matter what I say, they are going to deny it. So why should I let you set me up and bait me like that? It is very obvious that you have no intention at all of being objective.
You really like to assume things, don't you? why don't you stop assuming, and start bringing your evidence, so we all can see if it holds up against an indept look.

When you finally will win the nobel-prize for your research in gapology, you'll thank us for this opertunity.

Ask for evidence, get paranoia. Perhaps people don't believe you because you don't tell them anything?
Quoted for truth.
 
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I do not need science to back up what I believe. People just keep asking me for scientific evidence for what I beleive. So I give them that evidence. It is up to them what they want to do with the evidence once I give it to them.
Bible quotes, opinions, images you've found on Google, misunderstanding of basic scientific concepts and your own imaginings are not evidence.

We aren't trying to fool you here John. If you post real scientific evidence for what you believe in, then we'll acknowledge that. If you post something demonstratively false, illogical, or inane, we'll point that out too.
 
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I do not need science to back up what I believe. People just keep asking me for scientific evidence for what I beleive. So I give them that evidence. It is up to them what they want to do with the evidence once I give it to them.
Except you have yet to actually post anything that is even remotely scientific to back up any of your claims.

You often post some current research, and then make assumptions based on your existing ideas about this research, that in the end has no connection to the material at all.

Then you claim that this was scinetific evidence you psoted, when all it is your opinion, based on pre-existing ideas, with no evidnece to back it up.

You dodge the question in essence, by never actually posting any facts that directly support your view. You just throw something you've read out there in the hopes that it will appease us and shut us up.

Sorry John, we are not so easily decived.

Post the evidence. Actual scientific evidence. Here in this thread. Not a book. not a link to a book. Post the evidence for any of the below topics that you have previously claimed to have evidence for and explain how it supports your theory.

No more claims that we won't listen. No more claims that you have done so in the past. Stop dodging. Just do it. Be a man for once in your life and step to the plate.

Evidence for any of the below will suffice.

Gap Theory.
"The earth was covered in water" really means the Earth was in a severe Ice Age where most of the oceans froze.
Lucy is a fraud.
Modern DNA research is falsifying evolution even though we share 90% or more of our DNA with other primates.
Ruin and Destruction means massive volcanic eruptions.
Common Ancestry is false.
Mitochondrial Eve was the Eve of the Bible.
The Hebrews invented farming.
The Theory of Evolution has no conection to Genetics.
The Theory of Evolution does not have practical application in medicine, agriculture, genetics, or any other biological field of study.


Just take one, and actually detail out the evidence you have against it, and explain in detail how the evidence supports your claim. If I have mischracterized any of your views in the above, correct me, then post the evidence for it.

For everyone else, when John leaves this thread without supplying evidence for anything(as he always does), please feel free to take this list, expand or modify it, and post it to whatever new nonsense thread he starts up to try to hide his escape.
 
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Mistermystery

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I do not need science to back up what I believe. People just keep asking me for scientific evidence for what I beleive. So I give them that evidence. It is up to them what they want to do with the evidence once I give it to them.
sci‧en‧tif‧ic  /ˌsaɪənˈtɪfɪk/

–adjective 1. of or pertaining to science or the sciences: scientific studies.
2. occupied or concerned with science: scientific experts.
3. regulated by or conforming to the principles of exact science: scientific procedures.
4. systematic or accurate in the manner of an exact science.

ev‧i‧dence  /ˈɛvɪdəns/

1. that which tends to prove or disprove something; ground for belief; proof.
2. something that makes plain or clear; an indication or sign: His flushed look was visible evidence of his fever.
3. Law. data presented to a court or jury in proof of the facts in issue and which may include the testimony of witnesses, records, documents, or objects.
–verb (used with object) 4. to make evident or clear; show clearly; manifest: He evidenced his approval by promising his full support.
5. to support by evidence: He evidenced his accusation with incriminating letters.
—Idiom6. in evidence, plainly visible; conspicuous: The first signs of spring are in evidence.
For me scientific evidence is "that which tends to prove or disprove something; based on of or pertaining to science or the sciences: scientific studies."

If I would get that from you,, then surely you'd expect a review by any scientific method into your evidence? It only seems logical to me if you ask for scientific evidence.
 
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