Does science changing cause religion a problem?

[HitchSlap]

Something that contains the information and structure of the DNA molecule from random chance is just NOT acceptable to me.
I think that evolution conflicts with reason.

You fibbed. You said you disagreed for reasons other than the bible, then turn around and give a standard creo answer.

Shame on you.

 

[Merlin]

Well, through reason, many biologists have been able to figure out how evolution happened and the theory has mountains of evidence to support what it states, regardless of whether you think it doesn't make sense.

Do you think you know more about how evolution claims to work than PHD level biologists?

Having a PHD does not make one intelligent.
It is my position that one can only accept evolution by faith (the religion of many scientists)

 

[bhsmte]

Having a PHD does not make one intelligent.
It is my position that one can only accept evolution by faith (the religion of many scientists)

Do you think having a PHD in biology would give one more expertise on evolution than what you possess? Yes or no?

Not sure if you are familiar with Francis Collins. He is a physician who is also an expert in DNA and was the former head of the human genome project. He happens, to also be a devout Christian.

Here is his take on the evidence for evolution:

Francis Collins: The evidence is overwhelming. And it is becoming more and more robust down to the details almost by the day, especially because we have this ability now to use the study of DNA as a digital record of the way Darwin’s theory has played out over the course of long periods of time.
Darwin could hardly have imagined that there would turn out to be such strong proof of his theory because he didn’t know about DNA - but we have that information. I would say we are as solid in claiming the truth of evolution as we are in claiming the truth of the germ theory. It is so profoundly well-documented in multiple different perspectives, all of which give you a consistent view with enormous explanatory power that make it the central core of biology. Trying to do biology without evolution would be like trying to do physics without mathematics

Francis Collins and Karl Giberson Talk about Evolution and the Church, Part 2 | The BioLogos Forum

 

[HitchSlap]

Having a PHD does not make one intelligent.
It is my position that one can only accept evolution by faith (the religion of many scientists)

It's my position that those who claim others accept ToE on faith, and not because of multiple, independent lines of evidence for which all of biology is predicated upon, don't know the first thing bout ToE.

 

[bhsmte]

It's my position that those who claim others accept ToE on faith, and not because of multiple, independent lines of evidence for which all of biology is predicated upon, don't know the first thing bout ToE.

Ditto.

 

[Merlin]

You fibbed. You said you disagreed for reasons other than the bible, then turn around and give a standard creo answer.

Shame on you.

not at all.
i gave an honest answer.

 

[bhsmte]

not at all.
i gave an honest answer.

I would appreciate an answer to this question, if you could.

If you were diagnosed with a serious pulmonary disorder, would you seek out a physician trained and credentialed as a pulmonologist, or would you seek care from a physician who did not have expertise in this area?

 

[chilehed]

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Now clever excerpts aside, does religion not suffer by attempting to lead faith to factualism?

Only if the content of the faith is based on the wrong facts.

 

[rush1169]

Scientific discoveries and advancement have nothing to do with religion and God. There are those from both 'sides' who keep the two (science and religion) at odds, both internally and externally and deem the two mutually exclusive. Christians battle with the belief that science could remove God while atheists battle with the belief that God (or believers) could invalidate, stifle, or otherwise hinder scientific advancement.


For me, it's truly remarkable that the lowly hydrogen atom was all that was needed to create everything as it exists today. Even more remarkable that from a burst of just enough hydrogen atoms onto the scene that, given time, humans came to be. The more science explains, the more my religion strengthens. I'm much, much more impressed that God launches hydrogen knowing in a few billion years He will have to deal with me

Yeah, I've strongly considered that hydrogen was an accident, but *for me* based on what I see around me, the way things work, the way things were and are, I can conclude that there must be a Creator and humans are special, intended, and known that hydrogen would be the only ingredient needed. *For me* it's incomprehensible to think hydrogen and it's properties that allow everything we know to have just gotten lucky to have happened randomly by accident. I understand there are many out there who think the polar opposite: Those who think hydrogen just got lucky and the chain of events resultant of the formation of hydrogen was just nature doing what it does with hydrogen. I get that.

Christians need to embrace scientific advancement and realize that every new discovery adds to one's faith. It's much more incredible to think that God only needed to come up with and release hydrogen than to think that God 'made everything by hand'. Think of building a skyscraper - every piece must be made, brought to the jobsite, and assembled. God could do that too, or he could just make it appear, or he could invent a tiny piece of material with properties that would naturally become a skyscraper. The latter impresses me the most and that impression pales in comparison to the universe and it's contents.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Having a PHD does not make one intelligent.
It is my position that one can only accept evolution by faith (the religion of many scientists)

Do acknowledge the possibility that your position might be an incorrect position?