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What I see you doing here is blaming the Hebrews on something science is feeding you.
How did "windows of heaven" suddenly become "floodgates"?
And where did you read/hear about the "underside of a solid dome"?
But does the same source of that knowledge also tell you about horses and chariots of fire?
If not, how is it these Hebrews know more about cosmology than science will ever ascertain in its myopic state?
No they didn't. That was easy!(In reference to the Hebrews thinking the earth was flat...yes they did.
No...yours is!So there. I mean that.They also had a cosmology of the earth and heavens that is completely and utterly wrong
False. Any more old wives tales?, in comparison to what has been observed through scientific study:
Who cares about Justa or what he said? I addressed what I addressed, and it rocks.You need to pay attention. Your ignorance is so low it requires no science for corrections. But on the speed of light thread that you just posted on I refuted Justa's ignorance by quoting a link that he supplied himself.
As usual, dad loses again. GONG!
No, nothing that you ever say "rocks". We all know where you keep your rocks, but then you would not be "dad" if that were not the case.Who cares about Justa or what he said? I addressed what I addressed, and it rocks.
Yes.No....
Yes.
No they didn't. That was easy!
No...yours is!So there. I mean that.
False. Any more old wives tales?
More dishonesty from dad. Why do I even try. It is rather amazing that I as an atheist seem to be a better "Christian" than he will ever be.
Usually, even a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens, and the other elements of the world, about the motion and orbit of the stars and even their size and relative positions, about the predictable eclipses of the sun and moon, the cycles of the years and the seasons, about the kinds of animals, shrubs, stones, and so forth, and this knowledge he holds to as being certain from reason and experience. Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy Scripture, talking nonsense on these topics; and we should take all means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh it to scorn. The shame is not so much that an ignorant individual is derided, but that people outside the household of faith think our sacred writers held such opinions, and, to the great loss of those for whose salvation we toil, the writers of our Scripture are criticized and rejected as unlearned men.
Give yourself a pat on the back then I guess.... I as an atheist seem to be a better "Christian" than he will ever be.
In the days of Peleg after the flood was when I posit the change occurred. The lifespans level off at this exact time also. No one after the days of Peleg lived more or much more than Peleg!Well, he has an extremely unorthodox view of things. He holds a belief that things were different "way back when", but I don't recall ever seeing anything where he's gone into depth on how or way. He's good for the occasional laugh though.
Augustine talked nonsense on the topic of science and Scripture.I do like this quote by St. Augustine:
I am not the only one.Give yourself a pat on the back then I guess.
I am sure that dad would point out that St. Augustine was a Catholic. For some Christians it seems that being Catholic is worse than being an atheist....
Well, he has an extremely unorthodox view of things. He holds a belief that things were different "way back when", but I don't recall ever seeing anything where he's gone into depth on how or why. He's good for the occasional laugh though.
I do like this quote by St. Augustine:
I have no idea where your first post in this thread is; and I hope you'll excuse me for not wanting to hunt and peck for it.By simply looking at the picture I posted in my first post in this thread.
That is the NIV I am sure for you this passage alone is enough to support KJV only.How did "windows of heaven" suddenly become "floodgates"?
Ah!That is the NIV I am sure for you this passage alone is enough to support KJV only.
The Bible goes back to the beginning of recorded history. Moses was a very well educated Egyptian and Abraham was a very well educated Chaldean. The Chaldeans later on became Babylon in what is now modern day Iraq. Their teaching in part came from Sumeria even though the name Bible came from Byblos an ancient city in Lebanon. There is actually a HUGE amount of clay tablets that have never been translated. So there is a lot of work left to do in this area.Thank you for your reply josh 1 9, I appreciate what you're saying, but by saying that "God is not corruptible" you still have the problem (from my point of view) that your source of reference is still a text (i.e. C. Bible), the origins of which can be traced back to the Hebrew Bible of ca. 500 B.C., which in turn, was a collection of thoughts, ideas about gods, traditions and beliefs that reach back even further. On that basis, the Bible always appeals to me as an unreliable source of information, because so much of it was steeped in ignorance (comparatively speaking) myths, ancient traditions and fear. It became to be considered "the word of God" only at a much later time. I could be wrong (it has been known!) but what always strikes me as 'odd' is that people with a religious faith almost never investigate the origins and evolution of their own religion. The difference than between you and I, or atheists and theists, is that atheists are not satisfied just stopping their investigation at the point where the Bible takes off. They (atheists) tend to question the authenticity and authority of the Scriptures themselves. What are your thoughts?
The Biology book and how it is jam packed and filled to over flowing with evidence that the Bible is true. But I have to warn you that God will hold you accountable for what you know.
The Bible goes back to the beginning of recorded history. Moses was a very well educated Egyptian and Abraham was a very well educated Chaldean. The Chaldeans later on became Babylon in what is now modern day Iraq. Their teaching in part came from Sumeria even though the name Bible came from Byblos an ancient city in Lebanon. There is actually a HUGE amount of clay tablets that have never been translated. So there is a lot of work left to do in this area.
You see. When the evolutionist demands evidence they don't want you to quote scripture but Talkorigins, the evolution bible.
(I used to quote Talkorigins here years ago thinking this was what the scientist believed but I was told it was badly overrated and don't rely on it.)
Talkorigins does have the advantage of usually linking to the peer reviewed scientific articles that they base their arguments on. I have noticed that creationist sited when they refer to a peer reviewed article almost never have a link to the article itself. But if they cite a creationist source they almost always link it. Can you say "hypocrisy"?I'd prefer it direct from the source in scientific literature.
Problem is, it doesn't always revise articles to keep up with new findings. But it is pretty good as a source to locate actual research.
But as you recently learned, scripture is not scientific evidence.
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