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its there to help us learn answers, not to tell us answers?The job of scripture is to help us grow, so that our 'opinions' will approach true understanding of morality. It's there to help us learn, not to tell us the answers.
The Bible is final authority in all matters.I was looking through the forum, and noticed all of the opinions and advice given, that just plain out is not of the scripture.
Are we to rely more on our own peceptions of morality over those that the scriptures give us?
That is itself an opinion. It's not what 2 Tim actually says.The Bible is final authority in all matters.
2 Timothy 3:16 16All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness.
"Unfortunately" there isn't a proof-text for everything, and the Bible was never intended to be a "user's manual" or "Everything Book." People who grew up in a culture where it's treated as such are sadly too often ill-equipped to deal with moral questions.
For example, most, (although it seems to be dwindling) Christians are pro-life. They use various verses to "prove" that abortion is wrong. Now, I'm pro-life myself, but there's no "proof text" that shows abortion is wrong without a shadow of a doubt.
We can derive Biblical PRINCIPLES from scripture to make a case for certain morals, but very often, Christians are left scrambling with theological duct tape and a lot of odd verses to prove things.
It's not hard to pick the holes in that logic, but this isn't the right forum for doing so as it would turn the thread into yet another abortion thread.There is proof in the Bible tho. The 10 Commandments plainly say: 12 Thou shalt not murder.
mur·der (mûr'dər) n.
A question for those who believe in abortion and that the life in the womb is not human. Is it okay to take a fertilized egg between a man and a woman and place it in the womb of a dog?
- The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice.
The ferterlized egg between a man and a woman would have to be alive to grow, so to kill that egg would be murder, which the Bible plainly says is wrong. The Bible also says that God knew us before we were put in the womb so when we are conceived we already have a soul, so again we are talking murder which we are told is wrong.
- If you say no, then why? If it is not human then it doesn't matter, right?
- If you say no because it will become a human then you admit that it has human nature and is alive. If it is human in nature and alive, then you do not have the right to abort it.
- If you say it is alright, why is it okay?
I didn't have to scramble at all to get the answer, all I had to do was study the Word.
YOu seem to kind of imply that its not good for people to justify...so we should take that as you mean its wrong.I think the OP is confusing opinion with interpretation. This is where people seem to "justify" what they are saying. I am not saying that makes it correct or wrong, it is what happens.
Yuck...boo abortion debates.It's not hard to pick the holes in that logic, but this isn't the right forum for doing so as it would turn the thread into yet another abortion thread.
No, I am saying that justifying yourself is wrong in and of itself, IF it isn't the truth.YOu seem to kind of imply that its not good for people to justify...so we should take that as you mean its wrong.
Right. Thats what I thought.No, I am saying that justifying yourself is wrong in and of itself, IF it isn't the truth.
I think the OP is confusing opinion with interpretation. This is where people seem to "justify" what they are saying. I am not saying that makes it correct or wrong, it is what happens.
lets just say I started this thread after seeing people give spiritual advice to others that had no basis in scripture whatsoever, and based on what they "thought" God was like.No, I am saying that justifying yourself is wrong in and of itself, IF it isn't the truth.
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