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You're right! "Existing" (along with possible forms), not "existence", is a verb.No, "existence" is a NOUN! "Exist" is a verb.
"Existent" (not "existence") is an adjective that could apply to "something", but applying the adjective "existent" to any noun is merely an alternate way of conveying that the noun is performing the action of "existing.""Something" does not perform "existence", rather "existence" is a possible property of "something".
Aye! I am in much need of a grammar refresher course!existing is a participle.
do we have the nature / innated intent to do wrong?
No, not if you are suggesting that we are innately evil like "Orcs".
We have various natural motivations that can lead us either to commit good or evil acts. When aren't born with the kind of polished moral character that allows us to wisely do the right thing in all circumstances. This is something we need to work on and develop in our lives.
So, the situation isn't as simple as being innately good or innately evil. What we have innately is the capacity to develop wisdom and character, and the ability to make choices using judgment.
eudaimonia,
Mark
At the same time, it is observable across the board that children learning to talk need to be taught how to speak properly, but pick up cursing much quicker. This seems to suggest we have some natural inclination towards evil.
Good answer! And this is only one problem I have with Calvinism, and apparently all of reformed theology. Which is apparently what you were exposed to, and also reject.
At the same time, it is observable across the board that children learning to talk need to be taught how to speak properly, but pick up cursing much quicker. This seems to suggest we have some natural inclination towards evil.
It can further be observed that the Bible's stated relationship between our language (tongue) and the rest of our existence has some merit
Children will of course pick up a few words faster than an entire grammatical and linguistical system. Of course, there's no reason to assume that curse words are even evil in the first place, seeing as the list is redefined regularly - even within Christianity.
I'm not sure what you mean.
Children don't even need to be taught curse words, but will pick them up, and their use in context, observably more readily than non-curse words of similar complexity.
Just an observation; make of it what you will.
And yet verbal expression of positive sensation does not come so naturally. Explain that?
The Bible places what seems like undo importance on our ability to "bridle our tongue." I'm pointing out this does have considerable impact on the development of character, for those of us who care about such things. And I'm not really sure how to make sense of that phenomena, based on logic.
Maybe you should get better kids
The point is that if you want to demonstrate that morality cannot exist without God, you have two options:
1. Demonstrate the existence of God
2. Define "God" in such a way so that "morality without God" becomes illogical.
I really brought up this argument because of Razeontherock's claim that "existence without God" is nonsensical, which I disagree with, for the above reasons.
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