Does Mental Illness Resemble Evil?

[Landon Caeli]

I was just wondering if it's true that mental illness is genuinely evil, and I'm not talking about the poor people who suffer from these illnesses beyond any control of their own, but rather the disease itself.

For instance, I've never heard of a schizophrenic person hearing voices that tell him to do good rational things. Instead, I hear stories about voices telling people to do self-harm, or dysfunctional behavior. So why do we never hear stories about people who love these voices, as they tend to offer helpful, and Holy advice?

With turrets syndrome, the homeless woman across the street always yells profanity. She's always in conflict. And I've never heard of anyone with turrets shouting about love, happiness or anything positive in general.

...Could it actually be true that there is a scientifically provable relationship between mental illness and evil? Assuming we can properly identify evil in terms all can agree on?

 

[disciple Clint]

I was just wondering if it's true that mental illness is genuinely evil, and I'm not talking about the poor people who suffer from these illnesses beyond any control of their own, but rather the disease itself.

For instance, I've never heard of a schizophrenic person hearing voices that tell him to do good rational things. Instead, I hear stories about voices telling people to do self-harm, or dysfunctional behavior. So why do we never hear stories about people who love these voices, as they tend to offer helpful, and Holy advice?

With turrets syndrome, the homeless woman across the street always yells profanity. She's always in conflict. And I've never heard of anyone with turrets shouting about love, happiness or anything positive in general.

...Could it actually be true that there is a scientifically provable relationship between mental illness and evil? Assuming we can properly identify evil in terms all can agree on?

Well if it was "good" we would have been created with it because God made man Good, then came the fall, all illness is the result of the fall.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Well if it was "good" we would have been created with it because God made man Good, then came the fall, all illness is the result of the fall.

But I just find it peculiar that we never see mental illnesses causing positivity. Very suspicious.

 

[timothyu]

..Could it actually be true that there is a scientifically provable relationship between mental illness and evil?

Some have their dual physical nature more under control than others. It does not seem positive because it is the alter-ego shining through.

 

[disciple Clint]

But I just find it peculiar that we never see mental illnesses causing positivity. Very suspicious.

Not my area of expertise but I suspect that there are some people who are compulsive about helping others or serving others, maybe we only think about negative behavior when we think about compulsive behavior.

 

[RileyG]

I don't think "evil" per se, but maybe death as not being made whole. It's definitely something to think about.

 

[Carl Emerson]

Jesus dealt with the spirits behind mental illness and set folks free.

I can testify first hand to such a release.

This area of concern is under the medical profession who have no understanding of such matters.

Christians are leaving Psychiatry because they encounter obvious spiritual issues that need to be dealt with as such but are forbidden to do so by the practice's professional code.

In the mean time we have the highest suicide rate among teens than anywhere else.

Satan has a strangle hold on this area as it is critical to what he wants to achieve.

 

[public hermit]

I was just wondering if it's true that mental illness is genuinely evi

The only evil is when we are not compassionate to those who suffer with mental illness. When Jesus cast out demons, he cast out our hatred with them.

 

[Tolworth John]

I was just wondering if it's true that mental illness is genuinely evil, and I'm not talking about the poor people who suffer from these illnesses beyond any control of their own, but rather the disease itself.

Think, God is the source of all that is good and sin is the concequence of Adams fall and its affect on all humanity.
Literally we are All sinners, there is no one who is good, so mental illness, a mind that is malfunctioning will naturally go with its bias towards that which is sinful.

 

[Blade]

I was just wondering if it's true that mental illness is genuinely evil, and I'm not talking about the poor people who suffer from these illnesses beyond any control of their own, but rather the disease itself.

For instance, I've never heard of a schizophrenic person hearing voices that tell him to do good rational things. Instead, I hear stories about voices telling people to do self-harm, or dysfunctional behavior. So why do we never hear stories about people who love these voices, as they tend to offer helpful, and Holy advice?

With turrets syndrome, the homeless woman across the street always yells profanity. She's always in conflict. And I've never heard of anyone with turrets shouting about love, happiness or anything positive in general.

...Could it actually be true that there is a scientifically provable relationship between mental illness and evil? Assuming we can properly identify evil in terms all can agree on?

It is scary when you read "If you have schizophrenia, hearing voices is a common symptom" then told in a very nice way how to manage them. As for turrets syndrome.. seen allot of them where you almost never hear profanity just some random thing.

Yet there are those that say never been told to do harm or the like. All this being said its a lying spirit...yet our bodies can get sick so can the mind. In the end it is of the enemy never of God and a simple IN JESUS NAME.. does nothing. Just don't hear abouts that go in and how many come out delivered huh. Really have to be walking with God praying fasting. They know if you really believe or not. Like the story this man said there were two demons at the door. One was big the other smaller and looked scared. The man was scared and had no clue what to say. He said.. he heard this huge rush of wind and this hand placed on his shoulder. Said this great confidence and faith came and he had no clue if it was JESUS or some angel and didn't care lol.

He said come in take the couch or leave I am going to bed. He said the moment they knew he knew the authority he had they left. Take with a grain of salt. I don't remember the start of it but.. praise GOD I believe

 

[QvQ]

Schizophrenia is a physical disease like diabetes. Most schizophrenics are as moral as most people unless they feel threatened or are tormented by the disease. It is an extremely painful illness. Voices, paranoia are not enjoyable states of being.

There is misfiring of the neurons in the brain attributable to certain chemical problems somewhat akin to LSD hence the hallucinations and other altered mental states. Although similar to hallucinogens such as LSD, the person's body produces the chemicals The chemical problems can be corrected with proper medication


Demons do not cause schizophrenia anymore than demons cause diabetes.

We had a house when I was a child. The neighbor lady told me the house was a grocery store years before. One night a man broke into the grocery. He was caught stuffing raisins into his mouth. He was arrested for theft and jailed. He died of diabetic shock that same night.

Diabetes can cause bizarre behavior. Schizophrenia can cause bizarre behavior. Both medical conditions and medically treated.

 

[Carl Emerson]

Schizophrenia is a physical disease like diabetes. Most schizophrenics are as moral as most people unless they feel threatened or are tormented by the disease. It is an extremely painful illness. Voices, paranoia are not enjoyable states of being.

There is misfiring of the neurons in the brain attributable to certain chemical problems somewhat akin to LSD hence the hallucinations and other altered mental states. Although similar to hallucinogens such as LSD, the person's body produces the chemicals The chemical problems can be corrected with proper medication


Demons do not cause schizophrenia anymore than demons cause diabetes.

We had a house when I was a child. The neighbor lady told me the house was a grocery store years before. One night a man broke into the grocery. He was caught stuffing raisins into his mouth. He was arrested for theft and jailed. He died of diabetic shock that same night.

Diabetes can cause bizarre behavior. Schizophrenia can cause bizarre behavior. Both medical conditions and medically treated.

Interesting - My experience has been the opposite.

Committed to mental hospital and restrained against my will for a long course of ECT.

Folks prayed and I was released early to then embark on 7 years of prayer, deliverance and healing to full recovery. No medication, released from the voices and paranoia - strong in Him - this was 45 years ago so no remission. I have since prayed for others who have been similarly released. So I strongly object to accepting that the only way is to accept a life of medication. I guess I have been given the faith to believe in His authority in this area after what I went through. I prayed for a boy who had Grand Mal seizures and his parents sought me out 18 years later to say he was fully healed the day I prayed. So we need to regain the ground Jesus walked on spiritually and deal with these areas of spiritual oppression before they pass some law against deliverance...
I remember staying the whole night with a young man who would be thrown around the bedroom by a 'superhuman' force - he had enough valium to stop a horse. So we prayed in shifts - I could sense the spirit coming and forbade its activity before it beat him up. He also became strong in God to the relief of his parents.
My journey has been extreme and I have waited 40 years to tell my story. Folks like myself need to speak up - the church has largely abdicated its responsibility to minister in this area and we need to retake the land. I have recently been led to a main stream church that accepts my ministry - God is good.

 

[QvQ]

Folks prayed and I was released early to then embark on 7 years of prayer, deliverance and healing to full recovery. No medication, released from the voices and paranoia - strong in Him - this was 45 years ago so no remission.

The drugs were first released in the 1980's so 40 years ago. I have a relative who was so bad he was often in mental wards, straight jackets, all sorts of treatments.
He was one of the first to get the medicines. I was very close to him. I knew him, all the voices, paranoia, afraid and hostile to loved ones. I saw the tremendous energy released in wall and head banging. The furious shouting at voices, anger, pain, torment and despair. The family was terrified that he would end up incarcerated in the backward of some mental institution. It was pure horror.
I heard he had been given the medicine. I went to visit shortly after he started the medication and he was a normal, calm, rational smiling person.
Before that, there was only prayer. Prayer still works. He is an active Christian and believes both the drugs and the prayers keep him living a normal life. He is entirely normal person, living a normal life with friends and family in a normal neighborhood.
I am glad you found release from the misery of that illness.
As for my relative I know the utter despair and grief of the disease without treatment.
We had prayer. Now we have prayer and an answer to our prayers, those amazing drugs.

 

[Carl Emerson]

The drugs were first released in the 1980's so 40 years ago. I have a relative who was so bad he was often in mental wards, straight jackets, all sorts of treatments.
He was one of the first to get the medicines. I was very close to him. I knew him, all the voices, paranoia, afraid and hostile to loved ones. I saw the tremendous energy released in wall and head banging. The furious shouting at voices, anger, pain, torment and despair. The family was terrified that he would end up incarcerated in the backward of some mental institution. It was pure horror.
I heard he had been given the medicine. I went to visit shortly after he started the medication and he was a normal, calm, rational smiling person.
Before that, there was only prayer. Prayer still works. He is an active Christian and believes both the drugs and the prayers keep him living a normal life. He is entirely normal person, living a normal life with friends and family in a normal neighborhood.
I am glad you found release from the misery of that illness.
As for my relative I know the utter despair and grief of the disease without treatment.
We had prayer. Now we have prayer and an answer to our prayers, those amazing drugs.

I think the calling to minister in this area is not common but none the less real. My confidence is founded on being entirely broken and rebuilt by His grace, then sent to release others. It is His work.

I have no issue with medication as a crutch but don't see it as an avenue for total healing and release.

Back in the day I was given Chlorpromazine which reduces ones experience to 'vegetable state' I remember asking myself why I could decide when to clean my teeth... my whole will was broken. Without Jesus in my life I would have been finished.

Now my life is more than I could ask or think.

Jesus has the last Word.

 

[QvQ]

I think the calling to minister in this area is not common but none the less real. My confidence is founded on being entirely broken and rebuilt by His grace, then sent to release others. It is His work.

This is a ministry that is necessary. Prayers has always been a powerful healing tool.

Prayer works wonders but I would not discourage anyone from seeking medical advise or medical treatment for any disease. For some the drugs may not work. For others, the drugs are a miracle answer to our prayers.

I always note on threads about Schizophrenia that the person suffering is not evil, not demon possessed as people are afraid of bizarre behavior. I try to inform people that it is a physical disease. Compassion is better than some of the horrified and horrific reactions I have seen to my relative. A calm, kind and rational reaction to people suffering from schizophrenia is the best way to react, in my honest opinion.

One thing about the "brave new world" with these phones with headsets everyone is walking around appearing to be talking to themselves. I said hello to a women who said hello to me and she snarled, "I am not talking to you." She was talking to her phone head set. I thought she was schizophrenic there for a moment or two, talking to her "voices."

 

[timewerx]

nstead, I hear stories about voices telling people to do self-harm, or dysfunctional behavior.

We live in an obscenely dysfunctional world. Do we really know what's dysfunctional? We often understand the scriptures according to the dysfunctional viewpoint of this world.

With turrets syndrome, the homeless woman across the street always yells profanity. She's always in conflict. And I've never heard of anyone with turrets shouting about love, happiness or anything positive in general.

Perhaps if someone gave this homeless woman a nice home, love, hope, and a future then maybe she'd be better

 

[Joined2krist]

Why do some OCD sufferers(scrupulosity), hear mostly blashemy against the Holy Spirit?

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Mental illness is usually organic, brain based. But then it comes down to our anthropology doesn't it. If something is physical, brain based does that make it any less spiritual? I think perhaps people with mental illness are vulnerable to spiritual attack because they sometimes cannot or do not focus clearly enough on what we call normal life. The result may be undesirable but i am not sure that is "evil".

 

[Unqualified]

I have heard of a manic-depressive that was able to make a million dollars on a manic. functioning

 

[timothyu]

With turrets syndrome, the homeless woman across the street always yells profanity. She's always in conflict. And I've never heard of anyone with turrets shouting about love, happiness or anything positive in general.

This young lady (along with her parents) is not ashamed to put her life of Tourettes (brain inflammation) out there for all to see and try and understand.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJHvN0zYgO2ZLjePERRLjKQ

As a side note, if you watch enough you might just think that her outbursts are more her sub-conscious speaking rather than the conscious voice we all have that avoids what we are really thinking. In other words her soul is laid bare. Imagine on judgement day we all must stand in front of all the resurrected and each have our inner thoughts, the real us, displayed in front of all. Would there be shame?