Does Judas Iscariot Occupy On Of The Twelve Thrones?

[Eleknar]

Matthew 19:28 Jesus said to them, “Truly, I say to you, in the new world, when the Son of Man will sit on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel".

Twelve thrones, one for each of His twelve Disciples, which would include Judas. But what about Judas's betrayal? Will he still occupy one of these thrones or did his betrayal mess that up? Just curious to see what folks think about this. Thanks.

 

[Tamara224]

After Judas died, the other Apostles cast lots to choose someone (Matthias) to replace him. See Acts 1:12-26

I think that Matthias will be on one of the twelve thrones, not Judas.

 

[Hentenza]

Matthew 19:28 Jesus said to them, “Truly, I say to you, in the new world, when the Son of Man will sit on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel".

Twelve thrones, one for each of His twelve Disciples, which would include Judas. But what about Judas's betrayal? Will he still occupy one of these thrones or did his betrayal mess that up? Just curious to see what folks think about this. Thanks.

I don't think so.

Matthew 26:23-25
23Jesus replied, "The one who has dipped his hand into the bowl with me will betray me. 24The Son of Man will go just as it is written about him. But woe to that man who betrays the Son of Man! It would be better for him if he had not been born."
25Then Judas, the one who would betray him, said, "Surely not I, Rabbi?"
Jesus answered, "Yes, it is you."

 

[amadeus2]

Matthew 19:28 Jesus said to them, “Truly, I say to you, in the new world, when the Son of Man will sit on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel".

Twelve thrones, one for each of His twelve Disciples, which would include Judas. But what about Judas's betrayal? Will he still occupy one of these thrones or did his betrayal mess that up? Just curious to see what folks think about this. Thanks.

"And they appointed two, Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias.
And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, show whether of these two thou hast chosen,That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles." Acts 1:23-26

 

[Eleknar]

Ahhhh, I see. I guess if I would have been patient and just kept on reading I would have eventually figured it out. Sorry. Thank you all for your responses. God bless.

Kory

 

[livingword26]

The 11 chose 1 to replace Judas, but perhaps Jesus chose Paul?

 

[SonicBOOM]

Matthew 19:28 Jesus said to them, “Truly, I say to you, in the new world, when the Son of Man will sit on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel".

Twelve thrones, one for each of His twelve Disciples, which would include Judas. But what about Judas's betrayal? Will he still occupy one of these thrones or did his betrayal mess that up? Just curious to see what folks think about this. Thanks.

that place was designed for Judas but because of Judas's betrayal he gets replaced by Mattaius. This event takes place in Acts 2 I believe.

 

[zaire]

The 11 chose 1 to replace Judas, but perhaps Jesus chose Paul?

But not to be an Apostle.

Paul didnt meet the criteria to be an Apostle.

He did have the name Apostle to the Gentiles but that doesnt make him an actual Apostle, he wasnt one of the offical 12.

 

[HypnoToad]

But not to be an Apostle.

Paul didnt meet the criteria to be an Apostle.

He did have the name Apostle to the Gentiles but that doesnt make him an actual Apostle, he wasnt one of the offical 12.

What do you mean by "actual"? Whose definition are you using?

Being called an Apostle by Luke, and that is the inspired Word, it seems God says Paul is an Apostle.

 

[livingword26]

But not to be an Apostle.

Paul didnt meet the criteria to be an Apostle.

He did have the name Apostle to the Gentiles but that doesnt make him an actual Apostle, he wasnt one of the offical 12.

Paul was an apostle. He refers to himself as an apostle 15 times

Gal 1:1
(1) Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead

As to whether or not Jesus Chose him to replace Judas, you may be right. We'll see one day.

 

[CleanSword]

It does seem odd to me that Jesus had to pray
pray all night before He selected the twelve disciples,
but, Peter and the other ten didn't even pray an hour about it, but cast lots for someone to replace
Judas.

I believe that it was Paul that Jesus chose as the
twelveth disciple.

Be Blessed...
clean'

 

[zaire]

What do you mean by "actual"? Whose definition are you using?

Being called an Apostle by Luke, and that is the inspired Word, it seems God says Paul is an Apostle.

There are 12 apostles. Matthias was choosen as replacement for Judas.

From this we know that Paul wasnt one of the apostles in this sence.

I dont know why Paul is called an apostle though.

But its clear he isnt one of the 12 apostles.

 

[Epiphoskei]

Apostle shouldn't be considered totally interchangeable with "the twelve." It is used that way frequently in the first parts of acts, but strictly speaking, it has a literal meaning similar to the english "missionary" (The latin root of missionary is a translation for the greek apostello). Luke calls paul an apostle, but here's one for you: he also calls barnabas an apostle (acts 14:14).

Peter interpreted scripture to say that he ought to have done what he had done, and scripture doesn't disparage him for that, so I believe it has to be said that he was obeying God when he cast lots to replace Judas. Matthias has to have been the 12th.