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true, but the book of Judah says he’s quoting Enoch, not that he’s quoting the book of Enoch.Generally when you quote someone to support your statement; you do it to bring more credibility to your own words.
Judah doesn’t quote the book of Enoch, he quotes Enoch.Here, Jude references Enoch 2, calling it 'prophesy'. 2 Peter 1:21 tells us that no prophecy ever came by the will of man, but by men speaking from God.
By definition, if scripture is telling us that was a prophecy, and also that prophecy originates from God, then that makes it authoritative.
Enoch is a mess of a book with late attestation. It's more likely a book called Enoch had the quote added to it from holy scripture.Matthew 22:29 Jesus answered, “You are mistaken because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 30 In the resurrection, people will neither marry nor be given in marriage. Instead they will be like the angels of heaven."
I cannot find this quote, which expressly states that people will not marry, in the 66 books of the bible. I checked my NIV and NKJV and there was no footnote, strangely. Where did it come from and could it have been quoted from 1 Enoch? Jesus tells them they are mistaken for NOT understanding the scriptures, but which scriptures did Jesus have in mind when He told them about how things would be in future heaven with regard to marriage?
Below, there is no mention by any of these theologians where these scriptures of authority on the matter are to be found (I've read through them) and no mention is made of Jesus' source in the OT:
Matthew 22:29 - But Jesus answered... - Verse-by-Verse Commentary
Matthew 22:30 -
So let's see if it's true. So far I've found this verse which speaks on the matter—
http://scriptural-truth.com/images/BookOfEnoch.pdf
1 Enoch 51:4 And in those days the mountains will leap like rams, and the hills will skip like lambs satisfied with milk, and all will become Angels in Heaven.
—
So, is 1 Enoch canonical for this present day? Why or why not. I could be totally off-base in all this and I admit as much. I think it's worth exploring if anyone has any insight that'd be great. Anyone who's read 1 Enoch let us know what your thoughts are. I'm undecided. Probably not, but I'm open to suggestions.
God bless,
Matthew 22:29 Jesus answered, “You are mistaken because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 30 In the resurrection, people will neither marry nor be given in marriage. Instead they will be like the angels of heaven."
I cannot find this quote, which expressly states that people will not marry, in the 66 books of the bible. I checked my NIV and NKJV and there was no footnote, strangely. Where did it come from and could it have been quoted from 1 Enoch? Jesus tells them they are mistaken for NOT understanding the scriptures, but which scriptures did Jesus have in mind when He told them about how things would be in future heaven with regard to marriage?
Below, there is no mention by any of these theologians where these scriptures of authority on the matter are to be found (I've read through them) and no mention is made of Jesus' source in the OT:
Matthew 22:29 - But Jesus answered... - Verse-by-Verse Commentary
Matthew 22:30 -
So let's see if it's true. So far I've found this verse which speaks on the matter—
http://scriptural-truth.com/images/BookOfEnoch.pdf
1 Enoch 51:4 And in those days the mountains will leap like rams, and the hills will skip like lambs satisfied with milk, and all will become Angels in Heaven.
—
So, is 1 Enoch canonical for this present day? Why or why not. I could be totally off-base in all this and I admit as much. I think it's worth exploring if anyone has any insight that'd be great. Anyone who's read 1 Enoch let us know what your thoughts are. I'm undecided. Probably not, but I'm open to suggestions.
God bless,
Judah doesn’t quote the book of Enoch, he quotes Enoch.
It doesn’t say “as it is written”, or anything to specify that he is quoting any kind oF written material.
It's not in the Old Testament or the Apocrypha. The Jesus who inspired the Old Testament can give authoritative teaching that's not anywhere.
I don't believe Enoch is or was canonical for today or any day. Jesus did not quote from it. When He said "You do not know the Scriptures or the power of God...", He was merely stating a fact about the Sadducees. Also being their Creator, Jesus knew about the angels and their ways.Matthew 22:29 Jesus answered, “You are mistaken because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 30 In the resurrection, people will neither marry nor be given in marriage. Instead they will be like the angels of heaven."
I cannot find this quote, which expressly states that people will not marry, in the 66 books of the bible. I checked my NIV and NKJV and there was no footnote, strangely. Where did it come from and could it have been quoted from 1 Enoch? Jesus tells them they are mistaken for NOT understanding the scriptures, but which scriptures did Jesus have in mind when He told them about how things would be in future heaven with regard to marriage?
Below, there is no mention by any of these theologians where these scriptures of authority on the matter are to be found (I've read through them) and no mention is made of Jesus' source in the OT:
Matthew 22:29 - But Jesus answered... - Verse-by-Verse Commentary
Matthew 22:30 -
So let's see if it's true. So far I've found this verse which speaks on the matter—
http://scriptural-truth.com/images/BookOfEnoch.pdf
1 Enoch 51:4 And in those days the mountains will leap like rams, and the hills will skip like lambs satisfied with milk, and all will become Angels in Heaven.
—
So, is 1 Enoch canonical for this present day? Why or why not. I could be totally off-base in all this and I admit as much. I think it's worth exploring if anyone has any insight that'd be great. Anyone who's read 1 Enoch let us know what your thoughts are. I'm undecided. Probably not, but I'm open to suggestions.
God bless,
I don't believe Enoch is or was canonical for today or any day. Jesus did not quote from it. When He said "You do not know the Scriptures or the power of God...", He was merely stating a fact about the Sadducees. Also being their Creator, Jesus knew about the angels and their ways.
The books that you hold as canonical, you do so as a matter of faith, do you not?Matthew 22:29 Jesus answered, “You are mistaken because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 30 In the resurrection, people will neither marry nor be given in marriage. Instead they will be like the angels of heaven."
I cannot find this quote, which expressly states that people will not marry, in the 66 books of the bible. I checked my NIV and NKJV and there was no footnote, strangely. Where did it come from and could it have been quoted from 1 Enoch? Jesus tells them they are mistaken for NOT understanding the scriptures, but which scriptures did Jesus have in mind when He told them about how things would be in future heaven with regard to marriage?
Below, there is no mention by any of these theologians where these scriptures of authority on the matter are to be found (I've read through them) and no mention is made of Jesus' source in the OT:
Matthew 22:29 - But Jesus answered... - Verse-by-Verse Commentary
Matthew 22:30 -
So let's see if it's true. So far I've found this verse which speaks on the matter—
http://scriptural-truth.com/images/BookOfEnoch.pdf
1 Enoch 51:4 And in those days the mountains will leap like rams, and the hills will skip like lambs satisfied with milk, and all will become Angels in Heaven.
—
So, is 1 Enoch canonical for this present day? Why or why not. I could be totally off-base in all this and I admit as much. I think it's worth exploring if anyone has any insight that'd be great. Anyone who's read 1 Enoch let us know what your thoughts are. I'm undecided. Probably not, but I'm open to suggestions.
God bless,
The books that you hold as canonical, you do so as a matter of faith, do you not?
Matthew 22:29 Jesus answered, “You are mistaken because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 30 In the resurrection, people will neither marry nor be given in marriage. Instead they will be like the angels of heaven."
I cannot find this quote, which expressly states that people will not marry, in the 66 books of the bible. I checked my NIV and NKJV and there was no footnote, strangely. Where did it come from and could it have been quoted from 1 Enoch? Jesus tells them they are mistaken for NOT understanding the scriptures, but which scriptures did Jesus have in mind when He told them about how things would be in future heaven with regard to marriage?
Below, there is no mention by any of these theologians where these scriptures of authority on the matter are to be found (I've read through them) and no mention is made of Jesus' source in the OT:
Matthew 22:29 - But Jesus answered... - Verse-by-Verse Commentary
Matthew 22:30 -
So let's see if it's true. So far I've found this verse which speaks on the matter—
http://scriptural-truth.com/images/BookOfEnoch.pdf
1 Enoch 51:4 And in those days the mountains will leap like rams, and the hills will skip like lambs satisfied with milk, and all will become Angels in Heaven.
—
So, is 1 Enoch canonical for this present day? Why or why not. I could be totally off-base in all this and I admit as much. I think it's worth exploring if anyone has any insight that'd be great. Anyone who's read 1 Enoch let us know what your thoughts are. I'm undecided. Probably not, but I'm open to suggestions.
God bless,
Matthew 22:29 Jesus answered, “You are mistaken because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 30 In the resurrection, people will neither marry nor be given in marriage. Instead they will be like the angels of heaven."
I cannot find this quote, which expressly states that people will not marry, in the 66 books of the bible. I checked my NIV and NKJV and there was no footnote, strangely. Where did it come from and could it have been quoted from 1 Enoch? Jesus tells them they are mistaken for NOT understanding the scriptures, but which scriptures did Jesus have in mind when He told them about how things would be in future heaven with regard to marriage?
Below, there is no mention by any of these theologians where these scriptures of authority on the matter are to be found (I've read through them) and no mention is made of Jesus' source in the OT:
Matthew 22:29 - But Jesus answered... - Verse-by-Verse Commentary
Matthew 22:30 -
So let's see if it's true. So far I've found this verse which speaks on the matter—
http://scriptural-truth.com/images/BookOfEnoch.pdf
1 Enoch 51:4 And in those days the mountains will leap like rams, and the hills will skip like lambs satisfied with milk, and all will become Angels in Heaven.
—
So, is 1 Enoch canonical for this present day? Why or why not. I could be totally off-base in all this and I admit as much. I think it's worth exploring if anyone has any insight that'd be great. Anyone who's read 1 Enoch let us know what your thoughts are. I'm undecided. Probably not, but I'm open to suggestions.
God bless,
Matthew 22:29 Jesus answered, “You are mistaken because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 30 In the resurrection, people will neither marry nor be given in marriage. Instead they will be like the angels of heaven."
I cannot find this quote, which expressly states that people will not marry, in the 66 books of the bible. I checked my NIV and NKJV and there was no footnote, strangely. Where did it come from and could it have been quoted from 1 Enoch? Jesus tells them they are mistaken for NOT understanding the scriptures, but which scriptures did Jesus have in mind when He told them about how things would be in future heaven with regard to marriage?
Below, there is no mention by any of these theologians where these scriptures of authority on the matter are to be found (I've read through them) and no mention is made of Jesus' source in the OT:
Matthew 22:29 - But Jesus answered... - Verse-by-Verse Commentary
Matthew 22:30 -
So let's see if it's true. So far I've found this verse which speaks on the matter—
http://scriptural-truth.com/images/BookOfEnoch.pdf
1 Enoch 51:4 And in those days the mountains will leap like rams, and the hills will skip like lambs satisfied with milk, and all will become Angels in Heaven.
—
So, is 1 Enoch canonical for this present day? Why or why not. I could be totally off-base in all this and I admit as much. I think it's worth exploring if anyone has any insight that'd be great. Anyone who's read 1 Enoch let us know what your thoughts are. I'm undecided. Probably not, but I'm open to suggestions.
God bless,
Judah doesn’t quote the book of Enoch, he quotes Enoch.
It doesn’t say “as it is written”, or anything to specify that he is quoting any kind oF written material.
Psalm 114 also mentions hills skipping like rams. I thought skipping hills might happen in an earthquake. Israel has been shaken before as there is a fault zone from the Red Sea to Galilee. Tiberias and Safed were leveled in an earthquake. A hotel wall in Jericho was split open during an earthquake.Matthew 22:29 Jesus answered, “You are mistaken because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 30 In the resurrection, people will neither marry nor be given in marriage. Instead they will be like the angels of heaven."
I cannot find this quote, which expressly states that people will not marry, in the 66 books of the bible.
So let's see if it's true. So far I've found this verse which speaks on the matter—
http://scriptural-truth.com/images/BookOfEnoch.pdf
1 Enoch 51:4 And in those days the mountains will leap like rams, and the hills will skip like lambs satisfied with milk, and all will become Angels in Heaven.
—
That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
God bless,
The Dead Sea Scrolls could settle a lot of dispute on the subject. The argument that Enoch was altered to include Christ's words may be refuted by preservation among the Dead Sea Scrolls. The Essenes who put them there were not Christians and would have no reason to alter it with Christian text. If we could compare commonly known versions of Enoch to the Dead Sea Scrolls, then we would know for certain if this argument had any merit.It's more likely a book called Enoch had the quote added to it from holy scripture.
Oral tradition was very much a thing, and both Jude and the "Book of Enoch" could have been simply drawing on that. There is also the possibility of an earlier written source that both made use of but is no longer available to us, much like "the book of the annals of the kings of Israel" and "the book of the annals of the kings of Judah", which are referred to repeatedly in the Book of Kings as being a more in-depth history of the kings, but are now lost.If he wasn't referencing written Enoch, are you implying he had an audio recording, or did he and Enoch have a chat over dinner?
The Dead Sea Scrolls could settle a lot of dispute on the subject. The argument that Enoch was altered to include Christ's words may be refuted by preservation among the Dead Sea Scrolls. The Essenes who put them there were not Christians and would have no reason to alter it with Christian text. If we could compare commonly known versions of Enoch to the Dead Sea Scrolls, then we would know for certain if this argument had any merit.
In the aforementioned scripture, Christ scolded the Sadducees for not knowing scripture. Undoubtedly, Christians, in general, are still equally ignorant of this scripture and equally guilty. Christians don't know the scripture to which Christ referred.
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