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Even Christians feel pain and fear death, eternal life or no eternal life.
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Even Christians feel pain and fear death, eternal life or no eternal life.Are there REALLY any Christians in the foxholes?
If so do they Shout with Joy when the see the tanks coming because they believe they are about to receive eternal life? or do they get scared like they dont actually believe it.
Even Christians feel pain and fear death, eternal life or no eternal life.
I think half the time you are kidding us all here.Are you kidding me?
You tell me. You brought up the dogs not me.Do you think for one minute that stuff is real?
And throw Christians in asylums and steal candy from babies, etc.Why would scientists use dogs, when they can get money to build machines?
I guess then that you have never taken a prescription drug... instead you ate spinach. Remeber, that nice cool cave on the deserted island is still waiting for you, AVET.It's the same concept as writing a prescription instead of having a person eat fruit and vegetables.
Nah, they would need to get the dog to stop chasing birds and squirrels first, then chase after the ghost.What is that show? An hour long? A dog will cut it down to 10 minutes.
Only if he is reading the posts in this thread...I can just see it now:And there sits the dog, looking bored.
The world we can sense or detect. I used the term "physical evidence" to distinguish evidence we can put numbers to from "feelings" "beliefs" etc. You can just call it "evidence" if you like.Which once again begs the question: what is the 'physical world'? What is 'physical evidence'? What other kinds worlds and evidences are there?
Probably because they don't? Show me the evidence and I will believe in them.As can ghosts, if they exist. So why are ghosts considered supernatural?
If ghosts are spiritual only, that means by definition they cannot be detected. If they can be detected, then they would be part of the physcial. I will believe it, when you provide the evidence. Otherwise, they are just as likely to exist as the invisible pink unicorn under my bed.And until you've shown it to be impossible, it must be acknowledged as a possible (albeit improbable) option.
i wonder what the 9-11 guys really thought seconds before impact
"Did I leave the kettle on?"i wonder what the 9-11 guys really thought seconds before impact
Are feelings not 'physical'?The world we can sense or detect. I used the term "physical evidence" to distinguish evidence we can put numbers to from "feelings" "beliefs" etc. You can just call it "evidence" if you like.
I'm not arguing for their existence. I'm pointing out an apparent inconsistency with your terminology: if ghosts exists, then you would call them 'natural', but that seems to be like redefining the words out of all meaning. If anything is supernatural, I would've thought that a ghost would be.Probably because they don't? Show me the evidence and I will believe in them.
And the physical is a synonym for the natural, so ghosts would be natural, right?If ghosts are spiritual only, that means by definition they cannot be detected. If they can be detected, then they would be part of the physcial.
Actually, an invisible pink unicorn is a logical impossibility, while ghosts are merely improbable.I will believe it, when you provide the evidence. Otherwise, they are just as likely to exist as the invisible pink unicorn under my bed.
Not right at that moment, but I daresay they've been in their fair share of foxholes. The point, of course, is that there are atheists in foxholes, despite what the adage claims.That is not a foxhole, and those men do not appear to be facing death.
I have to admit, the Bible never calls them "atheists."Not right at that moment, but I daresay they've been in their fair share of foxholes. The point, of course, is that there are atheists in foxholes, despite what the adage claims.
That is not a foxhole, and those men do not appear to be facing death.
I have to admit, the Bible never calls them "atheists."
It has a much better descriptive term for them, of which that picture is indicative.
If you ask AV, it's probably only honorable if you do it in the name of his imaginary guy in the sky.The Bible calls them brave men and women serving their country with honor?
They are nothing we can put a descriptor to, like a number.Are feelings not 'physical'?
That's the contradiction that Ghost Hunters don't seem to get. If you can detect a ghost, then they are not supernatural at all, but part of the natural world. The fuzzy area is can the supernatural have an effect on the physical world, which we can then detect?I'm not arguing for their existence. I'm pointing out an apparent inconsistency with your terminology: if ghosts exists, then you would call them 'natural', but that seems to be like redefining the words out of all meaning. If anything is supernatural, I would've thought that a ghost would be.
I would say that if you could directly detect the presence of a ghost, then that would mean they are part of the physical world, yes. But what if you could indirectly detect the presence of a ghost?And the physical is a synonym for the natural, so ghosts would be natural, right?
Why? You can render a pink creature invisible to the naked eye, but wouldn't it still be pink? Stealth fighters are painted black, but they are invisible to radar. James Bond's car was silver (I think) but he could turn it invisible. Does that mean it stops being silver?Actually, an invisible pink unicorn is a logical impossibility, while ghosts are merely improbable.
On this point, color is entirely dependent on visibility and wave-length of reflected light. If something is invisible or is rendered invisible, it reflects no light and therefore has not color, even if it's just temporarily.Why? You can render a pink creature invisible to the naked eye, but wouldn't it still be pink? Stealth fighters are painted black, but they are invisible to radar. James Bond's car was silver (I think) but he could turn it invisible. Does that mean it stops being silver?
On this point, color is entirely dependent on visibility and wave-length of reflected light. If something is invisible or is rendered invisible, it reflects not light and therefore has not color, even if it's just temporarily.
So numbers are physical?They are nothing we can put a descriptor to, like a number.
I daresay Ghost Hunters would say that canThat's the contradiction that Ghost Hunters don't seem to get. If you can detect a ghost, then they are not supernatural at all, but part of the natural world. The fuzzy area is can the supernatural have an effect on the physical world, which we can then detect?
All detection is ultimately indirect, even if you look at it with your own eyes.I would say that if you could directly detect the presence of a ghost, then that would mean they are part of the physical world, yes. But what if you could indirectly detect the presence of a ghost?
Yep. What is silver if not a colour? And how can a car be silver if it doesn't have a colour?Why? You can render a pink creature invisible to the naked eye, but wouldn't it still be pink? Stealth fighters are painted black, but they are invisible to radar. James Bond's car was silver (I think) but he could turn it invisible. Does that mean it stops being silver?
You're going round in circles. If 'natural' is that which exists in nature, then what is 'nature'? If it's that which follows natural laws, what laws are 'natural', and why?
Because dogs can do the same job for less money and effort?Why would scientists use dogs, when they can get money to build machines?
Yes, because it's a well known fact that fruit and vegetables cure all health problems.It's the same concept as writing a prescription instead of having a person eat fruit and vegetables.
Now that was real cute.Yes, because it's a well known fact that fruit and vegetables cure all health problems.
I dare you to catch TB and get rid of it with apples.
Now that was real cute.
I was citing a fact, you're citing an exception to that fact.
I was recently written a prescription for Potassium and didn't get it filled, choosing to eat bananas instead.
Pray tell, what fruits or vegetables should one eat to cure AIDS, cancer, hepatitis, tuberculosis, or malaria?Now that was real cute.
I was citing a fact, you're citing an exception to that fact.
I was recently written a prescription for Potassium and didn't get it filled, choosing to eat bananas instead.
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