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Well, Christians can give you a why - because God loves us and he created us for His pleasure.
I'm not asking for a why. I'm asking why there needs to be a why. Why does the existence of the universe need a reason? Once you can answer that, then we can move on to whether that reason is god's love.
Well, Christians can give you a why - because God loves us and he created us for His pleasure.
I'm not asking for a why. I'm asking why there needs to be a why. Why does the existence of the universe need a reason? Once you can answer that, then we can move on to whether that reason is god's love.
Because it's an interesting question. Because people, through the ages, have been able to ask it.
Because it's an interesting question. Because people, through the ages, have been able to ask it.
Because God is Love --- a higher form of love --- called "agape".Why does the existence of the universe need a reason?
I agree the question is really irrelevant for Christians. Just interested in hearing atheists' answers or thoughts. Most will say the question is meaningless and ignore it. Others find it interesting. Interesting questions should have answers.
Because God is Love --- a higher form of love --- called "agape".
Agape love requires an object of affection; thus He made us as that object.
Someone that He can bestow gifts upon.
It's the kind of love that says, "I'd give you the world if I could" --- and that's just what He did when He turned it over to Adam.
I agree the question is really irrelevant for Christians. Just interested in hearing atheists' answers or thoughts. Most will say the question is meaningless and ignore it. Others find it interesting. Interesting questions should have answers.
No, I sure don't.
Are they victims of God's will, too?
I'll be more than happy to include them in my science-can-take-a-hike motto, or filter them out via my boolean standards, or just automatically assume they're wrong vis-a-vis my Prime Directive, if you want.
Your call.
I warn you though --- don't bother giving me a screen and a half of science, then expect me to kowtow to it, or you'll be disappointed when I handwave it away because it can't get past any of my three checkpoints listed above.
I am still waiting for religion to find a good answer as to why did the little bug fly into my mouth while I was riding my bicycle while panting? Did God want to give me more sustenance in the form of proteins or was he punishing the bug?I'm still waiting for science to find a good answer as to why we're here. I'm not holding my breath.
No, I'm not. I'm saying that your objection to an eternal universe is unfounded.That's the same argument the anthropic principle devolves into after a while. We're here, so X must be true. It's a tautology. You're answering the question "how did we get here with an infinite past" by saying "we're here".
No, I'm not. I'm saying that your objection to an eternal universe is unfounded.
Naturally, but I provided an argument for my case. Feel free to refute it. Just because you say it's perpetually unanswered doesn't make it soNo, actually it's a perpetually unanswered philisophical problem. Just because you say it's unfounded doesn't make it so.
The Electric Universe theory isn't held by most Christians as being on par with "Creation science" or "ID'. It's a scientific theory that a few Christians agree with, like myself. So I wouldn't paint all Christians with the same brush regarding this theory.First it was Creationism and when that failed to convince they tried Creation science, then ID, then Electric Universe!
I wonder what they will come up with next?
I admire your honesty regarding the religious resemblance of Big Bang theory.Could you just clear it up for me and tell me what it is that you actually believe, and why scientists confirming Plasma Cosmology would change your mind while the Big Bang would not, despite the fact it seems to fit better with your religion?
I admire your honesty regarding the religious resemblance of Big Bang theory.
You WANT to believe the Big Bang "exploded" into the universe so you interpret patterns in that fashion.You WANT to believe an intelligent creator created the universe so you interpret patterns in that fashion.
Evolution isn't a mechanism, it's a description of what happened, natural selection is the mechanism.Biological evolution is a change in life. If you want to look at the 4 billion years of life trapped in the rocks from billions of years of only single cells up to the diversity of the present day and tell me that life has not changed on this planet then be my guest, but don't act incredulous when people treat you like a nutcase.Do you have a German Shepherd by the way?
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