Does God live inside our observable universe?

Breckmin · Feb 4, 2017

To answer the OP.... yes and no.

Yes, God is omnipresent.

No, "live inside" could be equivocating IF the universe is infinite.

There's no outside an infinite universe so claiming "inside" is irrelevant and meaningless. So that is the big question.

Is the universe infinite? I believe it absolutely is. I believe that when we are created we enter existence into God's infinite domain of infinite 3 dimensional existence (notice I didn't say "space.")

daleksteve · Feb 4, 2017

I would say no.

God created our universe so he must exist outside it

Mark L. Pavlot · Feb 4, 2017

Rather than theory, which is contrary to the mind of God, as well as certain terms that have scientific creedance, one might see that by the Word of God the worlds were framed, and that in creation that which Hebrews 11;3 By faith we understand that the universe was formed by the Word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things that are visible.

Your Brother In Christ · Feb 4, 2017

This video addresses this topic:

Bereket · Feb 4, 2017

Thank you,

The Tabernacle of God is with men. Creation is an integral part of the natural man. God is an integral part of the spiritual man. Wherever the spiritual man is there you find the Lord who is the Spirit - in the meek and quite spirit of man.

Dr Bruce Atkinson · Feb 4, 2017

God is omnipresent and eternal.
There is no place nor time where He is not.
He lives both in the universe and above it because He created it.
He existed before the universe, and if it is destroyed, He will live beyond it.

1 Kings 8:27
"But will God indeed dwell on the earth? Behold, heaven and the highest heaven cannot contain You, how much less this house which I have built!”

Acts 17:24
"The God who made the world and all things in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, is not limited to dwelling in temples made with hands”

Jeremiah 23:24
"Can a man hide himself in hiding places so I do not see him?" declares the LORD "Do I not fill the heavens and the earth?" declares the LORD.

Proverbs 15:3
“The eyes of the LORD are in every place, watching the evil and the good.”

Colossians 1:17
“He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.”

Matthew 18:20 (Jesus speaking)
"For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst."

2consider · Feb 4, 2017

No, God lives in the unobserved universe.

Unobserved particulate matter exists all around us. Air, X-Rays, Ultraviolet light are some examples of this. All of these things are particulate matter, all made of the same subatomic particles everything else. In short, these are tangible things, they are matter. X-Rays can pass right through us and we have no sensation of it happening.

There's the possibility that entire universes, very real universes exist in the same place and time that we do, and we would have no idea and no perception of it. We could be standing in the middle of heaven and hell and not even know it.

Just like air is all around us yet we can't perceive it, so too could God be all around and we wouldn't know it. In fact the bible says this is the case.

Here's an edited clip of the late Dr. Irwin Moon of the Moody Bible institute of Science explaining it. Sorry for the low quality of the audio, turn it up a little.

Radrook · Feb 4, 2017

The Bible tells us clearly that God has a location-heaven.
God lives in a specific place—the heavens. Consider these Bible passages:

The scripture tells us that he used things unseen or invisible to us in order to create.

Hebrews 11:3 (ESV):

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THINGS unseen aren't nothing. They are simply things unseen.

DingDing · Feb 4, 2017

Yes.

patdee · Feb 4, 2017

INDEED He DOES!

Last part of an old hymn titled "He Lives"

"...............................You ask me how I know He lives? He lives within my heart!"

NO words ever spoken are more succinct and true than those awesome words. God is NOT a fleshly being as you and I, with ONE exception: For a mere 30 yrs since creation, God was manifest IN the flesh. At all other times, He is a spirit that is EVERY where. But NO where is He more real than when He is allowed to live IN the heart of those who believe IN Him.

Give it a try. You will NEVER be the same. Promise!

1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: "God was manifest in the flesh", justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with(in) God, and the Word was God.

John 1:14 And the "Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us", (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

So Jesus WAS God manifest IN the flesh for 30 yrs.

Praise His Holy Name. And may He richly bless you and yours always.

JacksBratt · Feb 4, 2017

God is All Powerful and Omnipresent.

He cannot be contained by our dimension or observable world. He cannot be controlled by our physical laws. He cannot be kept out or in.

To say He can't live inside our observable universe is putting limitations on God and saying He is affected by our dimensional laws of physics.

Sorry, but I think this is just ignorance perpetrated by the limitations of our human intelligence.

Ron Gurley · Feb 4, 2017

God "lives" everywhere, infinite and eternal...all everything. He is pure and perfect Spirit. "Heaven" is an invisible spirit realm in which the TRI-UNE God, angels, and the spirits of believing Christ-Followers dwell. The observable universe was created by His WORD. No man has ever "observed" God the Father at any time, only His chosen manifestations. God the Spirit of Truth indwells believers at the time of salvation. God the Son, Jesus the God-Man lived and dwelt among us, perfect sinless flesh, living in the Father's will, guided by the Holy Spirit.

John 1:18
No one has seen God (the Father)at any time; the only begotten God (the Son) who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.

John 6:46
Not that anyone has seen (God)the Father, except the One who is from God; He (God the Son) has seen the Father.

Hebrews 11:3
By faith we understand that the worlds were prepared by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things which are visible.

The many attributes / character traits / nature of the INVISIBLE TRI-UNE GOD which are found in the Bible and spirit-led writings!

1. Existent

2. Unified

3. Simple...Holy...Righteous...perfectly Good

4. Infinite

5. Eternal

6. Unchanging and unchangeable CHARACTER + attributes

7. All Present (spiritually available)

8. All Sovereign (supreme rule over all)

9. All Knowing (omniscience)

10. All powerful (omnipotence)

11. Perfectly JUST

12. Perfectly LOVING / Merciful

13. Perfectly TRUE / Truthful

14. Perfectly FREE

15. Perfectly separate and pure

John 4:24
God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."

Romans 12:1
Therefore I urge you, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living and holy sacrifice, acceptable to God,
which is your spiritual service of worship.

1 John 4:2
By this you know the Spirit of God:
every spirit that confesses that
Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God;

1 Corinthians 2:12
Now we have received,
not the spirit of the world,
but the Spirit who is from God,
so that we may know the things freely given to us by God,

Isaiah 61:1
The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me, Because the Lord has anointed me To bring good news to the afflicted; He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted,
To proclaim liberty to captives And freedom to prisoners;

Just Ben · Feb 4, 2017

Evidence of a creator is all around us and throughout the known universe. Science even is starting to recognize that everything. Like for instance; the planets in our solar system give us the weather we receive on earth. We are exactly the right amount of distance from the sun. We rotate on an axis. When new stars are created it doesn't look like an explosion it appears through our advanced telescopes to be created literally from nothingness. If people take enough time to observe the earth and our solar system eventually they will come to the conclusion that there is absolutely no way this happened by chance. Hope this helps someone and God bless

david.d · Feb 4, 2017

This is the purpose of the Holy Trinity. If you think of the roles of each, God does exist in our universe. Three different forms, carrying out a single purpose. The Father does not, the Son can, and the Holy Spirit is.

BukiRob · Feb 4, 2017

Not in the way you mean. G-d is spirit and as such he is not confined to our physical universe. His abode is the spiritual realm that can effect and interact in this physical world but his abode is not in the physical.

Ubuntu · Feb 4, 2017

The answer is both "yes" and "no".

As the creator of time and space, God isn't dependent on the observable universe for his existence. God transcends the physical universe, this universe isn't big enough to contain him. He existed "before" the universe, before time itself.

But God is also immanent, in other words, he has a dwelling place in this universe, he interact with his creatures and he manifests himself here. Both his transcendence and his immanence are ultimately mysteries too deep for man to fully comprehend.

Brother Mike · Feb 4, 2017

Scripture tells us.

Job 26:9 He holdeth back the face of his throne, and spreadeth his cloud upon it.

Job 28:24 For he looketh to the ends of the earth, and seeth under the whole heaven;

Eze 1:25 And there was a voice from the firmament that was over their heads, when they stood, and had let down their wings.
Eze 1:26 And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it.

Psa 115:16 The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD'S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men.

God's position is from above, the Heavens all that is included called the firmament belongs to him and all is under his observation from all the ends of the Earth. "Don't believe evolution, spinning ball earth government propaganda"

There is no scripture saying God is omnipresent. We need a scripture to believe something. We do have scripture that God can be there and know if God chooses. Our constant access to God is through the Holy Spirit, or God's Spirit He sent to Earth as Jesus promised.

Eph_2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

The rest of the World is WITHOUT God.
Eph_2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

You need something called a Scripture and more than one as no scripture is for private interpretation to back this statement. There are NONE. Focus on the Word, not fables of men.. So instead of the answer being simple with something you make up, get your Bible open and start reading and seeking.

The Scriptures were sent for a reason, lets make use of them folks.

Mike.

jamespyles · Feb 4, 2017

In my opinion, no. In order for God to be God, He must exist outside of time-space. He cannot be subject to our physical laws, and if indeed God is eternal and the universe is a created thing subject to entropy, God must exist outside the universe and must always exist outside the universe. That's why whenever He interacts in our physical world, it's a miracle.

JESUS=G.O.A.T · Feb 4, 2017

Ecclesiates 3 (time is for our convenience and to help us keep track of our days and understand gods glory)
1 To every [thing there is] a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:

2 A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up [that which is] planted;

3 A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;

4 A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;

5 A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;

6 A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;

7 A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;

8 A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.

Psalms 90:12 - So teach [us] to number our days, that we may apply [our] hearts unto wisdom.

proof God is outside of time (I mean logically if you know when things come to past you must be outside of time itself)

Jeremiah 29:11 - For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.

Mark 13:32 - But of that day and [that] hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.[/QUOTE]

DrBubbaLove · Feb 4, 2017

Residing implies location. Location general implies an area within which a person or thing can be found, as they are there. God is everywhere, so the idea that He is just in Heaven cannot be correct.
The point is an Infinite Omnipresent Spirit cannot be said to "reside" somewhere as if restricted, like saying we live somewhere means one can find a persons entire "being" in that general area. Such a concept cannot be applied to God without making Him much smaller. We can think of it as the angels and Saints in Heaven with Him now can "see" Him, but that does not equate to Heaven is a place where the Being, God hangs out. God is. He exists does not meant I need to go "somewhere" to find or see Him.

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