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Does God forget a Christian's Sins...?

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Originally Posted by ChrisCarol
I understand the scripture as it is written:

29 “Therefore since we are God’s offspring, we should not think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone—an image made by human design and skill. 30 In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. 31 For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead.”

Key word in the underlined: past

What does the but mean?


I in no way ever conclude that God should or should not do or do not.

..but now HE commands that all people everywhere to repent.

My question: what does the 'but' mean?


I'm lost to the point you are trying to make (assuming you are trying to make one) Do you beleive that we are held accountable for sins we are not aware of? How does that show God to be fair and just?
 
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Sorry, I didn't realize you didn't have this understanding from scripture. I'm used to speaking with people that know these concepts... here's some scriptures to back up what i said in my post.

Acts 17:30
And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
When the first of a string of isolated texts is highjacked to back up a fasle teaching, we can easily debunk that myth by presenting context.

OH, I see that ChrisCarol already posted the context proving that God winked at idol worshipping. Good job CC ;)
 
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I'm lost to the point you are trying to make (assuming you are trying to make one) Do you beleive that we are held accountable for sins we are not aware of? How does that show God to be fair and just?
Actually, there are a few points to make.
CLUE: They worshipped God ignorantly as the Unknown God Act 17:23 .
Their poets have said, "For we are also his offspring." Act 17:28

Act 17:29 God is not worshipped through the works of men hands, graven gold, silver or stone.
The scripture is saying that God winked at their ignorance in the matter of His Godhead Act 17:30 (you were making a point about sin.)

Why would God wink if His law was instituted in creation??

This could only prove that God never given other nations His 1,2,3 commandments or any of His laws.

Exd 20:4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth:

Point: If sabbath was instituted at creation, would God wink at those who break it.
Point; The significance you place on "written on stone with His finger" is meaningless if God winks at those who break His law.
Point: The truth seems to be that God's law was for those to whom He mgave it to.
 
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Actually, there are a few points to make.
CLUE: They worshipped God ignorantly as the Unknown God Act 17:23 .
Their poets have said, "For we are also his offspring." Act 17:28

Act 17:29 God is not worshipped through the works of men hands, graven gold, silver or stone.
The scripture is saying that God winked at their ignorance in the matter of His Godhead Act 17:30 (you were making a point about sin.)

Why would God wink if His law was instituted in creation??

This could only prove that God never given other nations His 1,2,3 commandments or any of His laws.

Exd 20:4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth:

Point: If sabbath was instituted at creation, would God wink at those who break it.
Point; The significance you place on "written on stone with His finger" is meaningless if God winks at those who break His law.
Point: The truth seems to be that God's law was for those to whom He mgave it to.
You ignore the point of the verse which is to turn from the sins and transgresions and follow God..'but now commandeth all men every where to repent: '
 
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You ignore the point of the verse which is to turn from the sins and transgresions and follow God..'but now commandeth all men every where to repent: '

another thing that points in that direction is that it is directly adressed to those he delivered out of Egypt, if I am not mistaken... so the law as such was given to Israel... and since it involves the rescue out of Egypt, this fingerwritten version of the Law couldnt have existed before... or not?
 
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You ignore the point of the verse which is to turn from the sins and transgresions and follow God..'but now commandeth all men every where to repent: '
Actually, the point I was making was to correct what God winked about. Those scripture clearly said that God winked at How people ignorantly worshipped Him. The context shows God itemized that they created God's made of stone, gold, man's hand.


With respects to your findings I'll comment on that too.;)

My understaning of "but now" signifies that God did not command them before, so "from now on.......all men should repent.

This does not mean to repent and turn to the law. It means to repent and turn to God.

This is where we'll have to argue that repenting does not mean we're under the law of sin and death.
The law of the spirit does not mind the law of sin and death.

SDA can argue all day and night, but scripture never said that sabbath is a moral commandment.
The fact that it was a sign of the Old Covenant is game over.
Sabbath is a sign.... Ex20 proves that It's was given to signify that that God rested on the seventh day.
CLUE: If scriptures say it was a sign for a small group to keep it cant be a moral law.

No other nation was given this covenant sign to keep.

Too many lies about the sabbath, the weak dont know why they keep it.
Too many pioneers ran from that issue among others doctrines.

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With Paul explaining that the law came 430yrs after the promise to Abraham was made. This proves what John wrote, The law came by Moses. This also proves what Jesus said,,,,,,Did'nt Moses give you the law?

When someone try to show the law existing in creation by saying: Abel gave the right sacrifice or other contradiction to what Jesus, John and Paul says. All I can do is post facts vs fiction.
 
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