Does God determine how long you live?

Mark Quayle

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I didn't say he "wanted" them to sin. What God has decreed, will happen. And that too is what we choose, even when we choose to sin.
 
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That's true but we all sin so we're all subject to an early death.
 
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That's true but we all sin so we're all subject to an early death.
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Well what i was speaking to are sins where God actually takes a persons life. From The Bible i see this as directed toward God's believers (born again children) as a form of judgment for sin. This may not happen as much now as this did in the early church as seen in The New Testament in a few examples.
 
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Yes, people can do things to keep themselves alive, but God controls if and how long they live.

"He who loves his life will lose it," Jesus says in John 12:25.

There are people who have done things to stay alive, but they have lost their lives because they have loved their lives.

And ones have tried to commit suicide, but God overruled that. But others have been so effectively resisted by God, that in their frustration and rebellion against God they have killed themselves and God did not stop them.

"God resists the proud" (in James 4:6, 1 Peter 5:5).

So the proud are not really in control!
 
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Ecc 7:17 Do not be overly wicked, Nor be foolish: Why should you die before your time?

Ecclesiastes shows us that our choices can shorten our lives. God does have a general plan for our lives, but it can and does change based upon what we do.

Jer 18:10 if it does evil in My sight so that it does not obey My voice, then I will relent concerning the good with which I said I would benefit it.

The Early Church taught that we have free will our life is not predetermined to the sense we have no responsibility or control over it. The Way and Free Will
 
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The logic is weak that says choice equals change, or that predetermination means no responsibility on the part of creatures.
 
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