Does God actually destroy Isreal in Jeremiah?

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In the story he discusses how he going to kill them using drought, sword or famine but a few verses later says they if they repent Isreal will be restored. Did he actually act out those punished or not?

Sources: “If you repent, I will restore you”
 

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In the story he discusses how he going to kill them using drought, sword or famine but a few verses later says they if they repent Isreal will be restored. Did he actually act out those punished or not?

Sources: “If you repent, I will restore you”

Yes, He essentially allowed most of Judah to be destroyed, with remainders of the population hauled off into Exhile in Babylon ... it can happen. But back then, it was an expression of the choice that exists in the Old Covenant between the Blessing and the Curse. The People of Judah and Israel rebelled, continuously and egregiously, and then got the Curse side of the covenant.
 
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In the story he discusses how he going to kill them using drought, sword or famine but a few verses later says they if they repent Israel will be restored. Did he actually act out those punished or not?

Sources: “If you repent, I will restore you”

Acts 1:6
When they had gathered together they asked him, "Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?" He answered them, "It is not for you to know the times or seasons that the Father has established by his own authority. But you will receive power when the holy Spirit comes upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, throughout Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth." When he had said this, as they were looking on, he was lifted up, and a cloud took him from their sight.
Hello Tommy,
Not Yet! But Soon! Upon Jesus' Second Coming. When Jesus was to Restore the Kingdom of Israel, was the big question the Apostles wanted to know from Jesus, right before He ascended into heaven.

Isaiah tells us, that though Israel grows to become 'like the sands of the sea', only very few will survive Jesus Second Coming, when Jesus Comes to Rule the world, and thus, Restore Israel.

It is Joseph's son Ephraim, who is the last to receive the 'Blessing of Abraham'. Because Jacob's sons from other mothers, tried to murder Rachael's son, Joseph; Jacob bypassed his Twelve Tribes/Sons, and placed the Blessing of Abraham on his wife Rachael's grandson Ephraim. Doing so, now the whole blessing of myriads of descendants would flow through his beloved, deceased, wife Rachael. Judah's descendants, the Jews of today, were bypassed by the blessing.

Ephraim's descendants grew to become so massive, they did not fit on one twelfth of the Promised Land. After king Solomon, The House of Judah and the House of Israel, split into two kingdoms. Ephraim's descendants, bearing the Blessing of Abraham simply took over the House of Israel. The House of Israel/Ephraim fell in 722 B.C. and they were ripped out of the Promised Land, scattered to the world, and lost in the masses, by God, due to their massive sins.

The House of Judah fell 135 later, but to retain Jesus' lineage to king David, they did not loose their lineage. We know who the Jews are today, not so with the lost myriads of Ephraim's descendants on earth today.

Ephraim's myriads of descendants, lost in the masses today, are going to take the brunt of God's wrath, upon Jesus' Second Coming. Isaiah says they will be 'consumed, soul and body'. If you are wondering who Ephraim's myriads of descendants are today; the Blessing of Abraham, which he and his descendants alone, received, is: Myriads of descendants, will grow to become a multitude of nations bearing world dominant power, and will have great wealth. And, of course, they will look a great deal like the Jewish race.

Hosea 5:9
Ephraim shall become a waste on the day of chastisement:

Against the tribes of Israel I announce what is sure to be.

Matthew 8:11
Mark what I say! Many will come from the east and the west and will find a place at the banquet in the kingdom of God with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, while the natural heirs of the kingdom will be driven out into the dark, Wailing will be heard there, and the grinding of teeth.

Isaiah 10:20
The Light of Israel will become a fire, the Holy One, a flame, That burns and consumes its briers and its thorns in a single day. And the glory of its forests and orchards will be consumed, soul and body, and it will be like a sick man who wastes away. And the remnant of the trees in his forest will be so few, that any child can record them.


On that day The remnant of Israel, the survivors of the house of Jacob, will no more lean upon the one who struck them; But they will lean upon the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, in truth. A remnant will return, the remnant of Jacob, to the mighty God. Though your people, O Israel, were like the sand of the sea, Only a remnant of them will return; their destruction is decreed, as overflowing justice demands. For the Lord, the GOD of hosts, is about to carry out the destruction decreed in the midst of the whole land.

Matthew 22:1

Jesus again in reply spoke to them in parables, saying, The kingdom of heaven may be likened to a king who gave a wedding feast for his son. He dispatched his servants to summon the invited guests to the feast, but they refused to come. A second time he sent other servants, saying, 'Tell those invited: "Behold, I have prepared my banquet, my calves and fattened cattle are killed, and everything is ready; come to the feast."' Some ignored the invitation and went away, one to his farm, another to his business. The rest laid hold of his servants, mistreated them, and killed them.

The king was enraged and sent his troops, destroyed those murderers, and burned their city.

Then he said to his servants, 'The feast is ready, but those who were invited were not worthy to come. Go out, therefore, into the main roads and invite to the feast whomever you find.' The servants went out into the streets and gathered all they found, bad and good alike, and the hall was filled with guests.


Hosea 6:10
In the house of Israel I have seen a horrible thing: there harlotry is found in Ephraim, Israel is defiled. For you also, O Judah, a harvest has been appointed.


Isaiah 28:1
Woe to the majestic garland of the drunkard Ephraim, To the fading blooms of his glorious beauty, on the head of him who is stupefied with wine. Behold, the LORD has a strong one and a mighty, who, like a downpour of hail, a destructive storm, Like a flood of water, great and overflowing, levels to the ground with violence; With feet that will trample the majestic garland of the drunkard Ephraim
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Jeremiah 31:15

Thus says the LORD: In Ramah is heard the sound of sobbing. bitter weeping! Rachel mourns for her children, she refuses to be consoled for her children are no more!
 
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The great philosopher once explained that many hardships in life are as such.

We be bound and stabbed and pinned to the wheel, it turns as faster than we can bleed out. Never ending torture like a snake devouring itself alive, with its tail in its mouth. But the snake will live through it all because the snake grows just as fast as it swallows itself.

Have you ever notices that some people of other faiths that have arrived after Yahoshua, often refer to mentioning of the Chaldean word for God - used in the Bible that which is the word - “ 'ĕlâhh “ H426 - א ֱ ל ָ הּ - 'ĕlâhh - “ 'ĕlâhh “

– Meaning = As the ( Chaldee ) word = For God: - god. This ( Chaldee ) word = א ֱ ל ָ הּ - “ 'ĕlâhh “ = is used 95 times in the Old Testament

The only places in the entire Bible where that this word “ 'ĕlâhh “ is used as the word God are the three books of - Ezra, Jeremiah, and Daniel. And the single, one and only reason that this word was used and mentioned in the Bible is because when the Hebrew Israelites were taken into captivity and made prisoners by Pagans who were Gentile, Idolaters, and Unbelievers.

- this was the word that the Pagans used when they said the word god in their language - when mentioning their Pagan deities and gods.
Dan 3:14 Nebuchadnezzar spake and said ..... do not ye serve my gods “ 'ĕlâhh “ - nor worship the golden image ?

Dan 4:8 Daniel was named Belteshazzar, according to the name of Nebuchadnezzar’ s god “ 'ĕlâ hh “ ... whom is the spirit of the holy gods “ 'ĕlâhh “ ....

Dan 4:9 O Belteshazzar, master of the magicians, because I know that the spirit of the holy gods “ 'ĕlâhh “ is in thee...
Dan 5:4 The Babylonian Pagans .... praised the gods “ 'ĕlâhh “ of gold, silver, brass, iron, wood, and of stone.
Dan 5:11 The Pagan Babylonian King mentions the spirit of the holy gods “ 'ĕlâhh “
Dan 3:14 Nebuchadnezzar spake and said .... Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, do not ye serve my gods “ 'e ̆lâhh “ nor worship the golden image ?
Dan 3:28 Then Nebuchadnezzar spake, and said, Blessed be the God “ 'ĕla ̂hh “ of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego..... that they might not serve nor worship any god “ 'ĕlâhh “ except their own God “ 'ĕ lâhh “
Dan 6:26 Nebuchadnezzar said - I make a decree, That in every dominion of my kingdom men tremble and fear before the God “ 'ĕlâ hh “ of Daniel .... he is the living God “ 'ĕlâhh “
Dan 5:23 But hast lifted up thyself against the Lord of heaven, and they have brought the vessels of his house before thee, and thou, and thy lords, thy wives, and thy concubines, have drunk wine in them; and thou hast praised the gods “ 'ĕlâhh “ of silver.

The Hebrew Israelites who were captives and prisoners - were using this word “ 'ĕlâhh “ - that means God in the Pagan world - when they spoke to the Pagan Gentile, Idolaters, and Unbelievers. The Israelites were trying to communicate and convince these Pagan unbelievers that the God of Israel was different from their deities and pagan gods.
And in this attempt - as prisoners, captives and hostages who were locked up and detained in captivity - they used the Pagan word for God in order to relate to their Pagan Gentile subjugators and captors that the God of Israel was the only God “ 'ĕlâhh “ that they would ever serve and worship.

They end up actually using the pagan identity of the pagan form of God “ 'ĕlâhh “ – in a communicative fashion to appeal and communicate to them, because this was the only expression, conditions, and identity that these violent Pagans would accept any form of god as being another god of their many, many Pagan deities. These Pagans hated the God of the Israelites and they hated and violently OPPOSED the very mention of the word for GOD in the Hebrew Language.

They were literally violently forced to serve the Pagan God “ 'ĕlâhh “ of the Pagans. They were being burned alive and fed alive to lions and tortured to death and facing a violent death.

Burning alive in heat and fire - boiling their skin and blood and consuming them alive in agonizing torturous, horrible unimaginable pain, until they were literally burned alive. OR - Being surrounded by a pack of hungry lions as they chew and eat through your belly and chew your limbs off and slowly tear you apart piece by piece - bite by bite as you die in the most agonizing death you can imagine.

This is WHY the word God “ 'ĕla ̂hh “ is in the Bible - And many have make a big deal about it to think this is some sort of a shaggy dog story or a tale of a joke that gives a credit to the fact that the name “ ALLAH “ that originated ONLY FROM many of The Pagan Pre - PAGAN - worlds religions that has many, many words and names for deities that somewhat sounds similar to this other Evil pagan god - named as “ 'ĕla ̂hh “ – that the Hebrews were being tortured to death and forced into worshiping and use this pagan word for god ? - when addressing their Evil, Demonic, Satanic and violent captors.

AND THIS IS - the only single condition and the only ( ONLY ) place and circumstance and event - where this word “ 'ĕlâhh “ is used in the ENTIRE BIBLE. It is never,ever used in the Bible - at any other place nor at in any other time - to refer to the God of Israel. Never.

In their effort to survive and escape being burned alive and eaten alive and tortured and butchered - the Israelites took the opportunity to speak in the language of these evil, perverted, butchering, barbaric and defiled and satanic, DEMONIC Pagans in an attempt to save their lives by relating to them in their own Pagan tongue and dialect.. And they, by force, were forced to use this word to relate to them about the “ subject “ of - ( GOD ) -

It would be like a person who was burning alive in the pits of Hell - as Satan begins burning you and your entire family alive and He is speaking of Himself as being GOD - and you address him pleading with Him to please, please stop torturing you and your family - and you speak the language and dialect of Satan about the subject of “ GOD and are literally forced to use the SATANIC word for god - in the midst of the conversation that you hold with him - just to get him to somehow stop torturing you and inflicting horrible pain on you and your entire family.

Your wives, mothers, father, sons, and daughters are facing a possibility of being tortured to death in agony and you appeal to the one who is going to doing all of this to you. And you in your captivated and imprisoned and uncontrollable nightmare of a circumstance, use the pagan title or word for god = “ 'ĕlâhh “ to appeal to them and communicate in their language, this often has let to many people
standing and jumping up and down on the sidelines smirking, laughing and mocking and sneering and pointing - as they make the claim in laughter and delight, pretending that this word is the true word for god in Hebrew..... Yet the Hebrews revert back to using the word for God that they used from before the time that they were captives and imprisoned in pagan lands.

I believe that this is a great example that shows how - God has preserved His word – and His very name in the Old and New Testament through the line of His chosen people – the Jews, and that God still has a plan for them. God Bless Israel and also each and every one of you.

Jer 31:16 Thus saith the LORD; Refrain thy voice from weeping, ( Rachel ) and thine eyes from tears: for thy work shall be rewarded, saith the LORD; and they shall come again from the land of the enemy.
 
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Have You ever noticed that Daniel was given a New Name while a prisoner in Babylon ? - Daniels new name was Belteshazzar.

- Hebrew 1095 בּלטשׁאצּר bêlṭesha'tstsar / bale-tesh-ats-tsar'.

Notice the ending on the name is - Tsar or Cesar.

They wanted Daniel to serve with the Government Monks or Enochs in Baal Worship. So they NAMED Danial The Name - BAAL Tesh CESAR. He was kidnapped, captured and expected to serve as - a technical - technician for the government - in Baal Worship and in the Baal system. - = Perhaps the = Tech was something to do with the technicalities of the office that he was serving under.

BAAL / Tesh / Tech - CESAR / Tsar... - bêlṭesha'tstsar
Bel or Baal was the name of the god of the Babylonians - and they used the word “ 'ĕlâhh “ for the word for god. The Hebrews even were forced to change their very names.
 
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