Does Doctrine matter?

[mact]

Does it matter what a church teaches? I SAY YES.

1Ti 4:16
Pay close attention to yourself and to your teaching; persevere in these things, for as you do this you will ensure salvation both for yourself and for those who hear you. NASB

Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee. KJV

Take heed vnto thy selfe, and vnto the doctrine: continue in them: for in doing this, thou shalt both saue thy selfe, and them that heare thee. KJ 1611


Would the opposite be true too??? If you are teaching the wrong thing, those you teach and yourself will not have ensured salvation?

In Him
Rick

 

[mont974x4]

all who teach better understand the the standard they are held too. Likewise, those being taught better keep the teacher in check.

 

[SoulFly51]

I thought doctrine was like democracy. Whatever most people think should be right is what is right.

After all if something is impopular, or if the Bible commands something I don't like, or if the Bible teaches something I don't fully understand it can't be correct can it? Let's vote on it, shall we.

 

[jad123]

I thought doctrine was like democracy. Whatever most people think should be right is what is right.

After all if something is impopular, or if the Bible commands something I don't like, or if the Bible teaches something I don't fully understand it can't be correct can it? Let's vote on it, shall we.

Does not matter if it is correct. There is bound to be a church out there that has the same beleifs and if not CREATE ONE!!!!

 

[whateveristrue]

Yes, Doctrine does matter. Without it... you can take a passage of scripture and interpret it to mean whatever you want it to mean, instead of what God intended it to mean. You might as well start your own cult.

 

[mact]

Yes, Doctrine does matter. Without it... you can take a passage of scripture and interpret it to mean whatever you want it to mean, instead of what God intended it to mean. You might as well start your own cult.

I am glad to see so many people speak up and agree. I actually thought there would be... and I am sure it will come... more of the opposite view.

 

[ROGER459]

(2Timothy 4:3-4) For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
(2Ti 4:4) And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

WHY ELSE, would someone believe some of this STUFF, that is posted on the BOARD, that is NOT EVEN IN THE BIBLE? ? ?

Thanks, Roger459

 

[threeinone]

Yes, Doctrine does matter. Without it... you can take a passage of scripture and interpret it to mean whatever you want it to mean, instead of what God intended it to mean. You might as well start your own cult.

I have a bit of a problem with that. How can we mere humans know what God, someone so far superior to us, know for absolute sure exactly what He intended something to mean? How does every person read and understand exactly the same thing. We are all created unique, so unique and then expected to see something exactly the same as everybody else? I just have a bit of a problem with that.

 

[mont974x4]

I have a bit of a problem with that. How can we mere humans know what God, someone so far superior to us, know for absolute sure exactly what He intended something to mean? How does every person read and understand exactly the same thing. We are all created unique, so unique and then expected to see something exactly the same as everybody else? I just have a bit of a problem with that.

The Bible tells us that Holy Spirit will guide us to the truth. Yes, there are still some mysteries and some discussion on things that aren't cut and dry.

Key is to not get hung up on things that aren't cut and dry and focus on things we all can and should agree on.

 

[salida]

Does it matter what a church teaches? I SAY YES.

1Ti 4:16
Pay close attention to yourself and to your teaching; persevere in these things, for as you do this you will ensure salvation both for yourself and for those who hear you. NASB

Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee. KJV

Take heed vnto thy selfe, and vnto the doctrine: continue in them: for in doing this, thou shalt both saue thy selfe, and them that heare thee. KJ 1611


Would the opposite be true too??? If you are teaching the wrong thing, those you teach and yourself will not have ensured salvation?

In Him
Rick

Let me put it this way - if its not biblical its worthless. Intellectually, the Bible has overwhelming evidence that supports it - and to ignore its doctrine is like ignoring and saying the sun or moon doesn't exist. Or its not a sun its a flower. I a great read is Examine the Evidence my Muncaster (was an athiest but now a christian). Lee Strobel is great too. Plus, abiding by it - is more a spiritual decision regardless of its evidence.

 

[CooL_Genesis]

In all reality, the Bible should be our only doctrine if everyone that claims they believe what it teaches. We should all be of the same spirit after we are born again into the body of Christ. The Holy Spirit will reveal the scriptures and they shouldn't be all that different in view to everyone if each person earnestly searches His guidance.

This is primarily why I've never understood why there are denominations in the Church. For me, a denomination, of any sort, denotes a division. Why must man place their "stamp of approval" on scripture? If it's infallible, inerrant, the Word of the Almighty Living God... why not believe it for what it says and let the Holy Spirit be the ONLY guide for truth?

I go to a Babtist church... but I don't claim to be a Babtist... I claim to be a believer and follower of our Lord Jesus Christ. I try daily to pick up my cross and folow Him in whatever way I may. This means learning some painful lessons about myself and my sins, but hey... it's worth it. I'm going to spend an eternity praising His beautiful name in Heaven! HALLELUAH!

Praised be the Lord, God Almighty!

-Genesis

 

[threeinone]

Let me put it this way - if its not biblical its worthless. Intellectually, the Bible has overwhelming evidence that supports it - and to ignore its doctrine is like ignoring and saying the sun or moon doesn't exist. Or its not a sun its a flower. I a great read is Examine the Evidence my Muncaster (was an athiest but now a christian). Lee Strobel is great too. Plus, abiding by it - is more a spiritual decision regardless of its evidence.

In a time of great desperation, God carried me, was my only true confidante, was the only who knew all about me, was the one who pulled me through and I got to trust Him implicitly......and on. Is my knowledge of God not in the bible worthless?

 

[Nse007]

As Luther said "Doctrine is Heaven"

 

[threeinone]

As Luther said "Doctrine is Heaven"

Strange.......I thought God was Heaven.....I am travelling to Him and that is where I am headed.

 

[mont974x4]

In a time of great desperation, God carried me, was my only true confidante, was the only who knew all about me, was the one who pulled me through and I got to trust Him implicitly......and on. Is my knowledge of God not in the bible worthless?

It is absolutely not worthless, my dear sister. The Bible talks about being able to see God in His creation (sorry can't remember the verse, maybe someone else can help me out). I get great peace and feel very close to Him when I spend time in the mountains. I see Him everywhere. I learn of Him from those quiet times in prayer.

 

[bod44]

Does it matter what a church teaches? I SAY YES.

1Ti 4:16
Pay close attention to yourself and to your teaching; persevere in these things, for as you do this you will ensure salvation both for yourself and for those who hear you. NASB

Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee. KJV

Take heed vnto thy selfe, and vnto the doctrine: continue in them: for in doing this, thou shalt both saue thy selfe, and them that heare thee. KJ 1611


Would the opposite be true too??? If you are teaching the wrong thing, those you teach and yourself will not have ensured salvation?

In Him
Rick

Doctrine is the basis for a religion. You can't have a religion without doctrine. You see, What society is pushing right now, is that everyone seeks the same God the same spiritual ideals, just under whatever name or form they are doing it. Every religion is just another way to get to God. Not true. Really, if we as christians were to pick a doctrinal statement to follow, we should all follow Romans. Its considered the doctrinal book and it holds all the important points. Doctrine is the framing for the ideas. Without doctrine anyone could do whatever they wanted to do. Remember, proverbs says that there is a way that seems right unto a man but the end thereof is death. Just cuz its right to us doesn't mean its right to God. Let us "hold fast to the doctrine you have heard" as paul said. Doctrine is vitally important.

 

[mact]

It is absolutely not worthless, my dear sister. The Bible talks about being able to see God in His creation (sorry can't remember the verse, maybe someone else can help me out). I get great peace and feel very close to Him when I spend time in the mountains. I see Him everywhere. I learn of Him from those quiet times in prayer.

Rom 1:19-21 because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. (20) For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. (21) For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

 

[mact]

It is absolutely not worthless, my dear sister. The Bible talks about being able to see God in His creation (sorry can't remember the verse, maybe someone else can help me out). I get great peace and feel very close to Him when I spend time in the mountains. I see Him everywhere. I learn of Him from those quiet times in prayer.

In a time of great desperation, God carried me, was my only true confidante, was the only who knew all about me, was the one who pulled me through and I got to trust Him implicitly......and on. Is my knowledge of God not in the bible worthless?

Not useless, but if what you think is from God ever contradicts anything in the Bible.... it did not come from God. The Bible calls us to test spirits.

In Him
Rick

 

[threeinone]

Doctrine is the basis for a religion. You can't have a religion without doctrine. You see, What society is pushing right now, is that everyone seeks the same God the same spiritual ideals, just under whatever name or form they are doing it. Every religion is just another way to get to God. Not true. Really, if we as christians were to pick a doctrinal statement to follow, we should all follow Romans. Its considered the doctrinal book and it holds all the important points. Doctrine is the framing for the ideas. Without doctrine anyone could do whatever they wanted to do. Remember, proverbs says that there is a way that seems right unto a man but the end thereof is death. Just cuz its right to us doesn't mean its right to God. Let us "hold fast to the doctrine you have heard" as paul said. Doctrine is vitally important.

Maybe I prefer another doctrine bod

You can't decide for everybody. The idea is for everybody to have a good doctrine for following Jesus and we are united in the ultimate goal being God, all following Jesus in our own way and united in our goal but not robots just following what is set in front of us - that would be - well if that was what God wanted, He would have just made us robots. We've got to learn to make it with our brains and hearts.

 

[whateveristrue]

There are things that the Bible tells us, and there are things the Bible is not telling us. We are Christians because we want to believe in the TRUTH, right?... not just what works for us...