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Does autism affect your relationship with God?

Discussion in 'Autism & Aspergers' started by ChristianForCats, Jul 17, 2019.

  1. ChristianForCats

    ChristianForCats Christ is born!

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    Do you feel your symptoms of ASD (anywhere on the spectrum) affect how your relationship is with the Holy One? Do you have doubts about being a Christian because of your uncontrollable demands for logic as we see it and all sentences having a literal interpretation?
     
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  2. Cimorene

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    My sister has Asperger's. She's doing extremely well in life, she's in med school at a top school now. But yes I think it's a barrier to her faith.

    She does believe in God bc our family believes in God. She went to church growing up bc it's what we did. She doesn't have a literal interpretation of scripture bc our family doesn't. I think it would be MUCH harder for her if we were fundamentalists who took scripture literally instead of a lot of it as allegorical.
     
  3. Rene Loup

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    I attend a Pentecostal church which is very big on supernatural experiences. At first I was pretty resistant to the idea of it all but still attended anyways. Eventually, I started getting experiences of my own which shattered my sense of logic and what I thought I knew. The most notable one being my experience with being drunk on the Holy Spirit. I had no idea what was going on with me as I had no knowledge of it before. The next day I looked it up and found what was described to be exactly what I experienced. I had no logical explanation for that. I also had dreams that gave me instructions and grace filled messages that ended up helping me feel more at ease.

    In addition, since joining this church my mood has drastically improved and I feel less and less anger and bitterness towards the world, towards life, and especially towards God. After up to 10 years of following a twisted version of Christianity I got from the internet, I joined a legit church and now finally feel like God really is working in my life. I've gotten nothing but positive changes after being with truly loving Christians and learning more about God's grace compared to the world's evil towards my kind.

    I'd say my bad experiences caused by Neurotypicals is what posed the greatest challenge to my faith in God's goodness. There are studies that show how you view God is heavily influenced by your relationship with your biological father. I believe a lot of Aspies who don't believe in God are just hurt and have a hard time believing that a loving God would subject them to a life full of abuse and loneliness. I recall one Aspie saying either God is a sadistic mother beeper or He doesn't exist.

    I understand hurt-induced anger towards God because I have felt it. I have experienced both good and bad Christianity and I came to the conclusion that not all denominations are equal. Most importantly, not everything in life is logical.
     
  4. Sabertooth

    Sabertooth Repartee Animal: Quipping the Saints! Supporter

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    No. God speaks Autism; He knows how to communicate effectively with me.
    No. Not only am I autistic, I am [Mensa/Intertel] gifted. Before I met Jesus, it became clear to me that my logic & intelligence were finite/mortal and, no matter how impressive my mental gymnastics might appear to others, they can't meet even my most basic spiritual needs. They're handy for what they were designed for, but I needed [Someone] higher to satisfy my spirit.

    Enter Jesus, His Plan of Salvation* and His Holy Spirit. I still don't know all of the answers, but I am confident that the One living inside of me does.
    The Holy Spirit communicates on a number of levels at the same time, overriding that tendency.

    "For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow;..." Hebrews 4:12 NIV

    *Read in other languages...
     
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  5. NothingIsImpossible

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    Depends on your place in the spectrum. And by that I mean for some it can cause them stress or things along those lines because for any number of reasons. In my case I am supposedly on the autism scale and I know I tend to overthink alot of things and I also tend to not read the bible because I get bored easily sometimes since I know it already (not that I am perfect of course). None the less I believe God understands our issues and realizes not everyone has the same walk.

    For example someone with really bad down syndrome may not fully grasp being a "christian", but God knows there heart is in it. I mean I can't see God turning someone down in heaven because they couldn't really understand the concept of being a christian.
     
  6. ChristianForCats

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    Nothing, God does not ignore retarded people. He wants everyone to share His love and is faithul to all of His children.

    I struggle with not reading the Bible every day and joined CF partiallly to fix that.
     
  7. Tolworth John

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    Does being left handed or having red hair or being tall, small, fat, or thin have any bearing on ones relationship with Jesus?

    Yes a mental disability can affect ones understanding of salvation, but it does not prevent anyone from understanding their need of a saviour and of their acceptance of Jesus.

    There is nothing wrong with having doubts/questions, only the nonchristian is without them as they donot believe in Jesus.
     
  8. Sabertooth

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    In its basic form, autism is a social disability, not a mental one. That is, we don't intuitively recognize society's unwritten rules.

    "Dyssocial" means that we still want to connect with others. We are just klutzy at it.

    Cognitive dysfunction (and other mental disabilities) are just complications that can happen on top of that. (They are from a secondary injury.)
     
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  9. bmjackson

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    Yes it severely affected me, that other Christians have shunned me and not included me in things. But now I know I am aspie, I understand why.
     
  10. Tolworth John

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    I'm no expert. I just know that the young man in our fellowship with autism loves Jesus.
     
  11. ChristianForCats

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    What does that have to do with your ability to love Jesus?
     
  12. bmjackson

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    Because l felt that He had not provided what l needed, support and help.
     
  13. Aleph.beth

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    If with ASD one is also alexithymic it can mean that one's ability to love Jesus is not impaired, but the ability to know love is impaired. So when people talk about knowing that the Spirit is present, the power of the Lord is moving etc. Then you feel nothing and have no idea what folks are getting so excited about.

    I agree about being klutzy - but with Jesus that is not too hard since I don't really heard from Jesus.
     
  14. Tony Ramirez

    Tony Ramirez Christian with Asperger's Syndrome

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    Yes my Asperger affects my faith greatly especially the social aspect which is very difficult. I do fight through it still pray but it gets either frustrated, boring or both.
     
  15. Aleph.beth

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    Yes in the sense that when people talk of feeling the love of the father I do not know from experience what they are talking about. When they talk of knowing God/Jesus/Spirit as an ever present comfort - I am equally blank. (Note - this might have more to do with alexithymia than ASD)

    For me the demand for literal-ism does not affect my relationship. I am OK with allegory, simile metaphor and I love the paradoxes that we see in scripture.
     
  16. NIrelandGillian

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    That is very sad. Since Christian Aspies are part of the body of the church, they need to be included in the fellowship of the church just like any other Christian. Do these other Christians also know you're an Aspie and has their attitude and understanding changed?

    Gillian
     
  17. bmjackson

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    Most don't know but with the ones who do it makes no difference. The pastor knew and he did not support me when I was bullied.
     
  18. Sabertooth

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    I wouldn't accept that as being the position of the whole Church. I have seen that kind and kept looking until I found a better fit.
     
  19. Tony Ramirez

    Tony Ramirez Christian with Asperger's Syndrome

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    If the Pastor did nothing then its not the right Church. My Pastor knows I has Asperger and understands a D supports me.
     
  20. bmjackson

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    Thanks I left the church and am trying out a new one where I think it will be much better. The pastor seems sympathetic and supportive. I don't agree with some of their ways - ecumenical, and the sermons in my last church were very good - expository - but I am not going to get one where everything is swimmingly.
     
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