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Does anyone know of miracles coming from the Anglican or Episcopalian Eucharists?

Discussion in 'Scripture,Tradition,Reason-Anglican & Old Catholic' started by Reformed Catholic, Mar 8, 2022.

  1. VincentIII

    VincentIII New Member

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    None of those miracles are dogmatic, so how much weight do they carry? I don't even recall hearing one referred to in Catholic Mass.

    I too suspect the Catholic Church would disregard an Anglican miracle, try to discredit it, or interpret it in way that serves the Catholic Church. I don't mean to paint all Catholic laypeople or clergy with that brush; I'm talking about the establishment.

    A protestant called into Catholic Answers and asked if the Catholic Church held that Protestants aren't saved. The Catholic apologists emphatically said the Church didn't believe that. They said they saw Protestants as their Christian brothers and sisters, but that they weren't receiving the fullness of the faith that's found in the Catholic Church (or words to that effect). That last part is something that many people believe about their denomination, so I'd just disregard it if somebody said that to me without persuasive support for that claim. But the point is that the Catholic apologists' reply to the Protestant's question makes it clear that they don't believe submission to the Pope is necessary for salvation.
     
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  2. concretecamper

    concretecamper Member of His Church

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    no, belief in Eucharist Miracles are not dogmatic.
    the question is if there are any. I'll take this answer as a resounding NO.
    According to His Church, any validly Baptized person who dies in a State of Grace is saved.
     
  3. VincentIII

    VincentIII New Member

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    It's not necessarily a no. See the link in post #18 of this thread. In the thread that link takes you to, post #9 tells of a possible Eucharistic miracle in an Anglican church. direct link
     
  4. concretecamper

    concretecamper Member of His Church

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    yes, I've seen this post. I said YOU SAID No
     
  5. VincentIII

    VincentIII New Member

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    Where in those words of mine do you find me saying that there are no Eucharistic miracles in the Anglican Church?

    When I saw this thread, my first thought was that if Eucharistic miracles happen, they're no less likely to happen in the Anglican Church. So nothing I've written in this thread would imply that there haven't been any.
     
  6. concretecamper

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    Then your original post on this thread appears to be cynical. I was hoping for a genuine example.
     
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  7. VincentIII

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    The part of my original post that you quoted doesn't say there were no Eucharistic miracles in the Anglican Church.
     
  8. concretecamper

    concretecamper Member of His Church

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    so?
     
  9. Mountainmike

    Mountainmike Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I see both sides of this, having been both sides, and respecting both.
    I am aware this is CofE, so I won’t give my own views on it, but evidence of that view, I probably have one of the largest collections of books and materials in the U.K. on Eucharistic miracles. The science is fascinating.

    But As a matter of clarification, Rome doesn’t make statements about phenomena outside its own churches. It is very reluctant to do so even then, and even when it does comment , it does not make any such miracle phenomena a matter of belief, even thought it is very outspoken on the nature of the Eucharist.

    I give as example the apparitions of Zeitoun at a Copt Orthodox Church. The Coptic church was left to make its own declaration . Rome did not express a view, even though many Catholics believe in them.

    Rome struggles to enter ecumenical discussions with CE because , love it or hate it, it does represent a fairly wide range of theological views. That doesn’t mean dialogue can’t happen. There are various joint local projects even in my U.K. parish, and it is good that there are, but it’s not at the level of trying to resolve theological difference.
     
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