Does anyone else get offended when people use the Lord's name in vain?

cloudyday2 · Dec 6, 2016

I suspect that when the 10 commandments says to not use the Lord's name in vain, they are referring to pronouncing the tetragrammaton YHWH. Ancient people thought that knowing the true name of something gave you power. When Adam gave all the animals their names, that is probably referring to their true names so that Adam would have power over the animals. My understanding is that Jews never pronounced YHWH except under special circumstances in a whisper, so nobody knows how it is supposed to be pronounced.

So using the Lord's name in vain would be using the power of God available through His true name casually. That is my guess.

TheOldWays · Dec 6, 2016

cloudy is right. I don't think the context from the 10 commandments is what Christians today think it is.

Robban · Dec 6, 2016

TheOldWays said:
cloudy is right. I don't think the context from the 10 commandments is what Christians today think it is.

cloudyday2 said:
I suspect that when the 10 commandments says to not use the Lord's name in vain, they are referring to pronouncing the tetragrammaton YHWH. Ancient people thought that knowing the true name of something gave you power. When Adam gave all the animals their names, that is probably referring to their true names so that Adam would have power over the animals. My understanding is that Jews never pronounced YHWH except under special circumstances in a whisper, so nobody knows how it is supposed to be pronounced.

So using the Lord's name in vain would be using the power of God available through His true name casually. That is my guess.

I think it is the iability to pronouce, it is throatal sound,
Maybe with exception of Moses,
Deut 34:10,
and there was no other prophet
in the land of Tsrael like Moses,
whom the Lord knew face to face.

Exodus 3:13;
and Moses said to God;
"Behold I come to the children of Israel and I say to them,
the God of your fathers has sent me to you and they say to me;
What is His name?"
14,
God said to Moses;
"Ehyeh asher ehyeh"(I will be what I will be)
and He said;
"So shall you say to the children of Israel;
Ehyeh(I will be) has sent me"

("I will be with them in this their predicament")

Cearbhall · Dec 6, 2016

mmbattlestar said:
But, even when Atheists do it I get offended because they won't stop when you ask them to please stop. They'll just keep on going because they know it'll make you upset and because to them, there's no harm in doing it because there is no God and Jesus is just a figment of our imaginations. You'd think Atheists would at least respect somebody's religious beliefs and not instigate Christians.

If you come across atheists who do that, they're not doing it because they're atheists. They're doing it because they're awful people. Tell them so, and find someone who's worthy of your time and company.

Robban · Dec 6, 2016

There is this,
Not to profane/desecrate His Holy Name, Leviticus 22:32,

In short,
by transgressing His commandments intentionlly.

Name is so allcovering of His
Who He is,

One should pray that God act for the sake of the Holiness of His Name,
one should also invoke the merit of his ancestors,

for we know the righteous are greater in death than in Life.

So any secret Name is unsure, rather one could say His Word.

Robban · Dec 6, 2016

Also,
found what I was looking for in my ancient tattered notes,
phew, a job and halv shipmates.

And you shall not profane My Holy Name; Leviticus 19:12,

You shall not swear falsely by My Name,
thereby profaning the Name of your God, I am the Lord.

Sins of spite,
one who transgresses God's command, not for pleasure or for the sake of perceived benefits,

but simply to demonstrate indifference for God's Words,
has desecrated God's Name,
having displayed open disregard for His wishes.

cloudyday2 · Dec 6, 2016

Robban said:
Also,
found what I was looking for in my ancient tattered notes,
phew, a job and halv shipmates.

And you shall not profane My Holy Name; Leviticus 19:12,

You shall not swear falsely by My Name,
thereby profaning the Name of your God, I am the Lord.

Sins of spite,
one who transgresses God's command, not for pleasure or for the sake of perceived benefits,

but simply to demonstrate indifference for God's Words,
has desecrated God's Name,
having displayed open disregard for His wishes.

The issue of swearing an oath by the name of some god is also mentioned in this wikipedia article

In the Hebrew Bible, as well as in the Ancient Near East and throughout classical antiquity more generally, an oath is a conditional self-curse invoking deities that are asked to inflict punishment on the oath-breaker. There are numerous examples in the Book of Samuel of people strengthening their statements or promises with the phrase, "As surely as Yahweh lives …" [8] and such statements are referred to in Jeremiah as well. The value of invoking punishment from God was based on the belief that God cannot be deceived or evaded. For example, a narrative in the Book of Numbers describes how such an oath is to be administered by a priest to a woman suspected of adultery, with the expectation that the accompanying curse will have no effect on an innocent person

Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain - Wikipedia

Robban · Dec 6, 2016

cloudyday2 said:
The issue of swearing an oath by the name of some god is also mentioned in this wikipedia article

Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain - Wikipedia

This can only mean one thing Cloudy,
It is not true when you said you have less faith than a mustard seed.
There are hundreds of things you could be doing now, but you are
active on this forum instead.
good sign when you are investigative too.

You know when the Rebbe was alive,
a group of young men, students were granted thirty minutes with him.
So at 01:30 in New York they came into his office and they stood there and said we have a question.

They asked "Are we good Jews or bad Jews, Yes or no?"

The Rebbe smiled and said,
"Here you are in New York 01:30,

there are plenty of things you could be doing but you want to speak of Godly matters instead.

You are moving in the right direction.

MehGuy · Dec 6, 2016

Eh.. not sure if many would like to hear my speech in real life. It wasn't until recently that I realized how much I used the lord's name in vain with my speech. If someone tells me to stop I try. Unless they're jerks in their own right.

Think I picked up the habit from Seth Macfarlane. He'd use it in his own comedy, and it kinda had this old timey 1940s Waspy vibe to it.

I actually watch old movie bloopers from time to time, and judging from those.. people in the 30s and 40s seemed to take the lord's name in vain 90% of the time they uttered a swear word.

MehGuy · Dec 6, 2016

awitch said:
I very rarely swear; usually only after an injury. Mostly I borrow fake swears from cartoons like Wander Over Yonder, like "flarppin'" and "Oh my Grop!".

That's pretty awesome.

When I was a kid swearing was cool and had an impact, these days its so common place that they have lost all their sting. Really its just a habit at this point, and often times I'm not even aware that I am using harsh language.

Although I do hope I'm not bothering people with my vocabulary. Not gonna lie, been thinking about this thread throughout the day. Lol.

Excessive swearing is usually pretty annoying, but it can have a strong comedic effect in the right situations (like Game Grumps or South Park).

Lol, have you seen the South Park episode "It Hits The Fan"? lol.

cloudyday2 · Dec 7, 2016

If I say "doggone it", is that swearing? What about "fudgesicles"?

MehGuy · Dec 7, 2016

cloudyday2 said:
If I say "doggone it", is that swearing? What about "fudgesicles"?

To some it probably is, lol. Sounds too wholesome to me.

Although some are surprised when I swear. Since they think I have an innocent looking face, and often easy going personality. Lol.

awitch · Dec 7, 2016

MehGuy said:
Lol, have you seen the South Park episode "It Hits The Fan"? lol.

No, but I definitely want to now, especially when someone can recall an episode's title.

Does anyone else get offended when people use the Lord's name in vain?

Do you get offended when someone uses the Lords name in vain?

Yes! It's very Offensive

No! It's only a word statement

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