Doctrine of Justification explained

[Joe67]

Stormy,

Justification is an "all of the family" arrangement, by Jesus Christ, the lamb of God.

Likewise, condemnation is an "all of the family" arrangement, by Adam and increased through Moses.

The "works of his hands" will perish. What he "formed" will perish, that is, go to the prince of darkness and his ministers.

The "breath/words of his mouth" will continue forever. What he spoke will endure forever. Faith comes by hearing. His voice has gone unto the ends of the earth and the gospel has been preached to every creature under the sun, so that all are without excuse. Yet, we are just like our parents.

The true shepherd was smitten once for us and by us, now we hear him speaking to us from the new Jerusalem which is above; speaking through the righteousness of God given through the shepherd's spilled blood, neither do I condemn you, go and sin no more.

When he has prepared us, chastened us and brought us together in the unity of the Spirit, and we have ceased arguing who is the greatest and who will be accounted the greatest in his kingdom, then he will come and gather us unto himself, all the body in one. The body has one head. The former things of the creation will be forgotten and the new things of the redemption through his blood will be our new song of praise as we minister under Jesus in the new Jerusalem come down.

John 17:20-25
20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me. KJV

Joe

 

[AzA]

Hopefully posters wanting to add their knowlege to this thread will stay on topic as we explore fact and fictions related to the doctrine of justification.

For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

And then he is kind enough to describe the order:

Christ the firstfruits;
afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

The End.

 

[Joe67]

When our "end" comes then we will understand him who was from the beginning and that he was always subject unto his father.

John 8:28-29
28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.

29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him. KJV

Rev 4:11
11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created. KJV

Joe

 

[sentipente]

I think you have a different meaning of "end" from me. Your "end" seems to mean continuation.

 

[Joe67]

I think you have a different meaning of "end" from me. Your "end" seems to mean continuation.

Senti,

Yes. The "end" of the crop season is the gathering, threshing and gathering in of the crop, so that life may "continue."

John 15:9-11
9 As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.

10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

11 These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full. KJV

John 7:37-39
37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.

38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

39(But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.) KJV

A flowing river is life. A stagnant body of the same water is a lake of fire.

Rev 22:1
2:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. KJV

The unending authority of God's government and the unending grace of God through his sacrifice is a flowing river out of our belly.

Joe