Do you yearn for revival?

[SteveR2021]

Revival is my passion...I am passionate about revival because I want God to get the glory that He is due, and I believe that can only happen when the church is functioning as it should (of course some may disagree with me when I say that the church is not functioning as it should...so I am open to hearing from you).

How about you? Is revival a passion of yours? If not...why not. If so...what do you think it will take to bring it about (I'm speaking now about nation wide revival)? And perhaps more important: if you do want it how badly do you want it?

Love to hear from you...

Your brother in Christ,

Stephen

 

[ZiSunka]

We need to see "vival" before we can yearn for "re-vival."

In other words, I believe that many people in the church that feel dry and dead have never known the Lord as savior. You can't revive someone who has never been spiritually alive.

 

[SteveR2021]

We need to see "vival" before we can yearn for "re-vival."

In other words, I believe that many people in the church that feel dry and dead have never known the Lord as savior. You can't revive someone who has never been spiritually alive.

Good point...but revival always takes place first within the church. When believers are revived then the true gospel will spread like wildfire. The problem you have noticed is because the church is not as it should be.

Thank you so much for your reply!

Hope to hear from more of you...

 

[ZiSunka]

Good point...but revival always takes place first within the church. When believers are revived then the true gospel will spread like wildfire. The problem you have noticed is because the church is not as it should be.

Thank you so much for your reply!

Hope to hear from more of you...

I AM talking about the church!

 

[MbiaJc]

Revival is my passion...I am passionate about revival because I want God to get the glory that He is due, and I believe that can only happen when the church is functioning as it should (of course some may disagree with me when I say that the church is not functioning as it should...so I am open to hearing from you).

How about you? Is revival a passion of yours? If not...why not. If so...what do you think it will take to bring it about (I'm speaking now about nation wide revival)? And perhaps more important: if you do want it how badly do you want it?

Love to hear from you...

Your brother in Christ,

Stephen

I am passionate for revival also. However the body of Christ that being presented today is not the bibical body of Christ. I do not think His body will have any significent power till it gets back to the bibical pattern as layout in scripture.

BTW everyone agrees things are not as they should be. But when you tell them what wrong, most will think you are an ediot.

 

[aReformedPatriot]

For some reason, I hear the word "revival" and it makes me shudder. No offense to anyone. I think when revival happens it is a great thing but there should be no need for a revival because we should never get so complacent in the Lord for the need to arise.

If Christian's would do that, then I am confident that by being the salt and the light, that people will be drawn to it.

 

[SteveR2021]

For some reason, I hear the word "revival" and it makes me shudder. No offense to anyone. I think when revival happens it is a great thing but there should be no need for a revival because we should never get so complacent in the Lord for the need to arise.

If Christian's would do that, then I am confident that by being the salt and the light, that people will be drawn to it.

I don't blame you. There should be no need for revival...the very word indicates that there is something wrong. Getting it right is precisely what revival is!

Thanks for the feedback.

 

[SteveR2021]

I am passionate for revival also. However the body of Christ that being presented today is not the bibical body of Christ. I do not think His body will have any significent power till it gets back to the bibical pattern as layout in scripture.

I am always excited when I meet someone who is also passionate for revival! And I think you are right about getting back to the Biblical body of Christ...the trouble is what is that body?

 

[Sword-In-Hand]

Revival is definitely not about holding meetings with special pastors and special singers every fall, winter, spring and summer.

As my pastor puts it, it's about not wanting the gift, but the Giver, not wanting the blessings, but the Blesser, just wanting God to turn His face in a particular direction.

We have to first build a mercy seat for Him and pray and hope that He comes and sets in it.

I've experienced revival at my church for the last four years. I pray that something like we are experiencing explodes and goes through our nation, but it's just hard to see it happening. Too many people are point blank wrong about Scripture, but they teach it anyway, and it's hard to get past those stumbling blocks. However, with man things are impossible, but with God all things are possible.

 

[SteveR2021]

As my pastor puts it, it's about not wanting the gift, but the Giver, not wanting the blessings, but the Blesser, just wanting God to turn His face in a particular direction.

Amen!

I've experienced revival at my church for the last four years.

That is wonderful to hear! I would love to hear more about it.

I pray that something like we are experiencing explodes and goes through our nation, but it's just hard to see it happening.

It will if we want it bad enough and, as Finney used to say, if we meet the conditions.

Too many people are point blank wrong about Scripture, but they teach it anyway, and it's hard to get past those stumbling blocks

What do you see as the major problems? What kind of errors are being made?

 

[Sword-In-Hand]

That is wonderful to hear! I would love to hear more about it.

Four years ago, the church I now attend was dying. The congregation had slipped to where only 30 people attended church on Sunday morning! It was just a small church, not a cornerstone or anything and it just seemed to be heading for closure. Then the Lord began to move in my pastor and friend. Eventually, through so many trials, he was accepted as pastor there. Now we run a congregation of around 400-500 people and we were ranked in the top 2 percent in growth in the state of Kentucky in 2003 and last year we saw God save over a hundred souls and be baptized into our church! Only God could start a movement like that, and He is keeping it up. We grow tremendously which is awesome, because if you're not growing your dying. It would take pages to list everything that God has done in this church, but we are now something that is talked about and constantly attacked, but the Lord proves faithful always.

What do you see as the major problems? What kind of errors are being made?

Honestly? Liberalism and this let's hold hands and never rebuke anyone mentality. This idea that we shouldn't explain anyones wrongs, but just accept them because we don't want to hurt someones feelings. I think we should be going into churches and flipping over tables and calling some churches a brood of vipers lol.
Don't get me wrong, whatever rebuking does occur should be done out of love, because Jesus said, judge not according to appearance, but judge out of righteousness.
It's just Christianity is getting so watered down and flaky, it's becoming something like Buddhism and it's not Jesus' fault at all, but ours.
Jesus said if we lift up His name then He will draw all men unto Him. Well it appears we haven't done enough lifting, because if we had then the world would not be like it is, nor would the church.
People need to go back to the day when sin was preached on and people felt wrong about their sin.

 

[SteveR2021]

Four years ago, the church I now attend was dying. The congregation had slipped to where only 30 people attended church on Sunday morning! It was just a small church, not a cornerstone or anything and it just seemed to be heading for closure. Then the Lord began to move in my pastor and friend. Eventually, through so many trials, he was accepted as pastor there. Now we run a congregation of around 400-500 people and we were ranked in the top 2 percent in growth in the state of Kentucky in 2003 and last year we saw God save over a hundred souls and be baptized into our church! Only God could start a movement like that, and He is keeping it up. We grow tremendously which is awesome, because if you're not growing your dying. It would take pages to list everything that God has done in this church, but we are now something that is talked about and constantly attacked, but the Lord proves faithful always.

Wow...I love to hear testimonies like that. Thank you for sharing that.

Honestly? Liberalism and this let's hold hands and never rebuke anyone mentality. This idea that we shouldn't explain anyones wrongs, but just accept them because we don't want to hurt someones feelings. I think we should be going into churches and flipping over tables and calling some churches a brood of vipers lol.
Don't get me wrong, whatever rebuking does occur should be done out of love, because Jesus said, judge not according to appearance, but judge out of righteousness.
It's just Christianity is getting so watered down and flaky, it's becoming something like Buddhism and it's not Jesus' fault at all, but ours.

This is a definitely a problem...and a major one.

I personally think that there is a greater problem than even Liberalism and tolerance...I believe it's compromise (the lukewarmness described in Revelation). There is another thread on this forum dealing with hard sayings. Christ called us to a costly Christianity...I frankly don't see that costly Christianity in action...ours is a comfortable, easy, lazy Christianity.

There are just not enough fanatics for Jesus out there...fanatics for just about everything else (including self) but not for Jesus.

People need to go back to the day when sin was preached on and people felt wrong about their sin.

Thanks for the post!

 

[SumTinWong]

We don't need a revival we need a reformation.

 

[MbiaJc]

I am always excited when I meet someone who is also passionate for revival! And I think you are right about getting back to the Biblical body of Christ...the trouble is what is that body?

Excelent question glad you asked.


THE SPIRITUAL BODY OF Christ



MEMBER: Of the body of Christ, the first three are given by Christ Himself and all are set in the church by GOD, each person has one or more.

Compare 1Corinthians 12:28 & Ephesians 4:11

apostles

prophets

teachers (evangelist, pastor teacher) Compare 1Cor. 12:28 with Eph. 4:11

miracles

healings (medical remedies)

helps

governments (of Latin origin, to steer) (figuratively) directorship (in the church)

diversities of tongues



OFFICE: The ability, the way the Spirit works through us (The work to be done). Each member can hold one, or more or all offices, but not likely.

Romans 12

Prophecy

ministry

teaching

exhorting

giving

ruling

mercy



MANIFESTATION: The way the Spirit works in us. The Spirit works in each member in one or more ways.

1 Corinthians. 12:1-10

wisdom

knowledge

faith (given by GOD)

healing (medical remedies)

miracles

prophecy

discerning of spirits

tongues

Interpretation of tongues





There are two offices to add to these. They are to be appointed by the Church.

Deacons: Are to wait on tables (take care of widows and orphans)

Elders: Elders are to be appointed to the office of Bishop. The Elders all of them are the Under Shepard \Pastor of the Church. They are the ones ordained of God. Not this one man show we have today. Their duties and qualifications are in Timothy, Titus and some in Peter.

 

[moses916]

the revival i'm looking for is the unification of all churches! God bless!

 

[ZiSunka]

As my pastor puts it, it's about not wanting the gift, but the Giver, not wanting the blessings, but the Blesser, just wanting God to turn His face in a particular direction.

Amen!!

 

[ZiSunka]

I yearn for the mission field!

 

[Sword-In-Hand]

I personally think that there is a greater problem than even Liberalism and tolerance...I believe it's compromise (the lukewarmness described in Revelation). There is another thread on this forum dealing with hard sayings. Christ called us to a costly Christianity...I frankly don't see that costly Christianity in action...ours is a comfortable, easy, lazy Christianity.

There are just not enough fanatics for Jesus out there...fanatics for just about everything else (including self) but not for Jesus.

I agree completely! Jesus said that the harvest was ready, but the workers were few, so we should pray that God increases the workers.

I like this post. It seems like everyone posting is getting uplifted.

 

[SteveR2021]

I agree completely! Jesus said that the harvest was ready, but the workers were few, so we should pray that God increases the workers.

Yes we should pray! If you're really hungry for revival check out www.sermonindex.net. A few of us from that site have been 'meeting' for prayer on a daily basis...we're always looking for more who will join us.

I like this post. It seems like everyone posting is getting uplifted.

yes...i much prefer topics that edify than topics that result in endless debate.

God bless you Sword-in-Hand!! Thanks for the post.

 

[SteveR2021]

We don't need a revival we need a reformation.

Thanks for the feedback Uncle Bud...could you explain what you mean by reformation?