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Do You Tolerate Evil?

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Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them. (Rom 1:32)

A shocking thing is happening in American religion. Many religious people who claim to love God also approve of or tolerate things that God hates. The Bible says, "Hate that which is evil; cling to that which is good" (Rom 12:9) and "Let those who love the LORD hate evil" (Ps 97:10), but many people who claim to follow the Bible do not hate evil. Rather, even though they themselves may not commit evil deeds, they tolerate evil and those who practice it.

As Romans 1:32 says, there are two things you can do to anger God--commit sin or tolerate and approve of sin.

Do you tolerate evil? Something is tolerable if it can be endured or "received without disgust, resentment, or opposition" (Webster's Dictionary). Do you ever see wickedness without a feeling of disgust and opposition rising up in your heart? Do you tolerate wickedness? Do you find it easy to put up with wickedness? Or do you abhor wickedness? Does wickedness arouse in you an intense hatred and disgust, making you sick when you observe it? I would challenge you to examine yourself honestly before God.

And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books (Rev 20:12).

There will come a day when we all will be judged according to what we have done. For sake of illustration, picture someone in a courtroom being charged with tolerating evil.

Prosecutor: You stand accused of tolerating what is evil.

Defendant: These charges are completely false. I love the Lord and hate what is evil. I am a Christian.

Prosecutor: Do you find evil entertaining?

Defendant: Absolutely not!

Prosecutor: I have evidence that leads me to believe otherwise: Do you ever laugh at wickedness?

Defendant: Uh...well...um...I guess I have found a few dirty jokes to be funny...

Prosecutor: What about on television or in movies? There are numerous comedies and sit-coms that exalt foolishness, making fun of and insulting others.

Defendant: Well, yes, I have laughed at many such things, but...

Prosecutor: The Bible says, that among God's people there should never be "obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving...Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the Lord's will is" (Eph 5:4, 17).

Defendant: I guess I haven't taken such verses seriously.

Prosecutor: You also stand accused of tolerating filthy language.

Defendant: Wait a minute! I don't curse or swear.

Prosecutor: True, but you regularly watch movies that contain profanity and most movies even take the Lord's name in vain.

Defendant: But actually, I notice these things and I wish that movies didn't contain bad language.

Prosecutor: While you watch the movies, the vulgar language does not create in you enough disgust to leave the movie theater or turn off your TV. If every "Christian" who says he hates filthy language would boycott the movies perhaps Hollywood would change. Instead, people compromise their standards to watch what they call a "good" movie, but what God calls a "ruined" movie.

Prosecutor: Now, let us talk about violence. Do you tolerate and approve of violence?

Defendant: Now this time I can say with confidence that I hate violence. There is so much violent crime in the world and it makes me sick even to think about it!

Prosecutor: Again, the evidence points to the conclusion that you tolerate violence and even that you are entertained by violence. Do you watch violence in movies?

Defendant: Yes, but certainly that is not wrong.

Prosecutor: God told Noah that he would destroy the world because of violence (Gen. 6:11-13). "The LORD examines the righteous, but the wicked and those who love violence his soul hates" (Psalm 11:5). You should be deeply distressed and saddened by the violent acts that you see portrayed on the movie screen. But God, who knows your heart, knows that the violence in movies has not served to give you a righteous hatred for evil; instead it has caused you to be desensitized toward it.

Defendant: I guess I have never considered any of these things. Everyone else is watching these same television programs and movies.

Prosecutor: We are told to be innocent concerning evil (Rom. 16:19). Should you, a professing Christian, indulge in the same entertainment as the people around you who don't even claim to know God? Indeed, as Jesus warned, "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it" (Matt 7:13-14).

Defendant: OK...But I am a Christian! I believe in Jesus so none of these things matter!

Prosecutor: Would you be embarrassed to have Jesus sitting with you while you watch your movies? Can you honestly say that you react the same way he would to the movies?

Defendant: I see your point. I would be embarrassed to have Jesus watching movies with me.

Prosecutor: Be warned, there are many who "claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him. They are detestable, disobedient and unfit for doing anything good" (Titus 1:16). Again, Jesus warned you about this: "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven" (Matt 7:21).

Does the defendant in this dialogue at all resemble you? Do you tolerate and even approve of the things God hates? Are you able to receive the entertainment that is full of foolishness, course joking, filthy language, and violence without disgust, opposition or resentment? If so, you tolerate evil. This is no small matter! I urge you to take these things seriously. For there will come a day when the books are open and your deeds will be laid out plainly before the Judge. "Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account" (Heb 4:13).

You have the opportunity now to renounce all wickedness and ask God to create in you a clean heart through the blood of Christ. You have the opportunity to ask God to fill you with the same hatred that he has toward wickedness. I plead with you to seize this opportunity.
http://www.obeygod.com/doyoutolerateevil.htm
 

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sweetkitty said:
You have the opportunity to ask God to fill you with the same hatred he has toward wickedness
i dont want to be filled with hatred at all. not to be flaming i totally have a point here.....but i find your post seem wicked many times, but i dont want to hate you. judgement isn't up to us, and therefore you just can't hate "wickedness" it is too subjective
 
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SqueezetheShaman said:
i dont want to be filled with hatred at all. not to be flaming i totally have a point here.....but i find your post seem wicked many times, but i dont want to hate you. judgement isn't up to us, and therefore you just can't hate "wickedness" it is too subjective
I would ask that you stop directing post to me about me and keep things at a non-personal level.
 
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thought it would help make the point. but ok. you are right, getting personal is against the rules.

this will work too....i think many posts by fundamentalists seem to be bigoted and full of wickedness, and just plain evil. but it is my opinion and i can't hate someone just because i think they may be evil. see my point? i don't want to be filled with hatred towards them. why would you?
 
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SqueezetheShaman said:
btw. this thread is not helping those of us who see evil in fundamentalism. asking to be filled with hatred is something satan would want, not jesus.

I agree.

"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."
--Martin Luther King, Jr.
 
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We all tolerate evil everday of our lives. We all fall short of perfection. We come to this board and hear the opinions of the unbelivers. If they can be considered evil for their disbelief since we read what they post. We can effectively be tolerating evil even if we do reply with love the sinner hate the sin. We can be effectively be tolerating evil by letting people who do not believe and speak against God on this board. We can be effectively tolerating evil if we agree with anything a non-beliver says. We can be effectively tolerating and promoting evil if we speak and act with hatred. We are all sinners and pale in comparison to the Glory of God. Am I deserving of damnation...yes...but by the Christ I am saved. I repent to the best of my ability, and frankly I am ashamed by my feeble attempts. He knows that I seriously want to please Him, and walk with Christ. Does not mean I am perfect. It means that I am doing my best. God knows though what lies in my heart, and that is what counts.

When the antichrist comes to power we will not accept the mark. We will be subject to persecution. Some will be martyrs, and subject to death. We will refuse him at all costs, but we will still be subjected to his rule since we are on the same planet. Does not mean that we have to accept him. Means that we will have to live with him nonetheless.
 
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Who are you to determind evil? Who are you to determine sin? Its one thing if you're trying to get attention on these forums, water_ripple, and you're starting this questionable topic to get replies, and its another thing if you're doing it to make yourself feel higher.
Who are you, to say that folks of other religions are going to burn in hell? Indeed, these things were said in the bible, but the LORD said these things, and you certainly did not. The Lord also states he is the one and only God, therefor, judge others not, but mind your own **** buisness. Antichrist you say? This too is mentioned in the bible. But who is to say this will happen while we are alive, and not 2,000 years into the future? The bible was written many years ago, and like many other forms of propoganda and books of worship, time and different publishers have warped and extremized every word in those books to adapt to the modern peoples of this day. Who knows if todayys bibles are giving off the same information and guidance the original bible gave off. Who's to say? My name isnt Darwin Fish to **** you off, its Darwin Fish because its a topic Im trying to learn more about. Take care. And try not to be so closed minded, walking the streets, thinking "That man there is going to hell because he has cheated on his wife in the past." Because you ARE not the judge. Spreading the word of God is a wonderful thing to do, but do it with an open mind and pure heart as originally intended, not with a ego-face and the words "WE'RE (christians)THE ONLY ONES WHO ARE RIGHT. BURN ALL YE WHO DO NOT ALSO FOLLOW". You should give the people rights to chose who they want to follow. If its Christianity, thats wonderful. I totally love that. If they chose to be (example) Islamic as they were raised, then let it be. Dont throw your idea of their fate in their faces.The lord will decide. Maybe by being judgemental and trying to predict the Antichrist is frusterating God. Who knows, but him? Dont get me wrong, I am christian, and I love the Lord, but im so tired of everyone throwing around this egotistical nonsense, truly inspired by their want for acceptance by others around them. Thank you, and goodnight.
 
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DarwinFish said:
Who are you to determind evil? Who are you to determine sin? Its one thing if you're trying to get attention on these forums, water_ripple, and you're starting this questionable topic to get replies, and its another thing if you're doing it to make yourself feel higher.
First of all people are not allowed to flame each other. A personal attack is a flame. I responded to the OP. It is my opinion of which I am entitled to. Making great assumptions about the intentions of others can be greatly misinterperated. I do not feel higher than anyone else at all. I said we all fall short of perfection. This includes me. I am just as much subject to the judgement of God as anyone else.
DarwinFish said:
Who are you, to say that folks of other religions are going to burn in hell? Indeed, these things were said in the bible, but the LORD said these things, and you certainly did not. The Lord also states he is the one and only God, therefor, judge others not, but mind your own **** buisness.
I never said people of other religons are going to burn in hell. I never said anyone was going to burn in hell. The only thing that I said is that compared to God all people fall short of His Holiness and all are sinners. Since when is that contrary to the word of God?
DarwinFish said:
Antichrist you say? This too is mentioned in the bible. But who is to say this will happen while we are alive, and not 2,000 years into the future? The bible was written many years ago, and like many other forms of propoganda and books of worship, time and different publishers have warped and extremized every word in those books to adapt to the modern peoples of this day. Who knows if todayys bibles are giving off the same information and guidance the original bible gave off. Who's to say?
Christ has instructed His followers to watch for signs. So I do. Yes some have twisted the words of Christ to fit into their perceptions. Christ says that all people are the children of God. Means that all people are equal. He says that all people fall short in perfection. Means that nobody is better than the next person. This includes me. I never set myself apart from the judgement of God. I am subjected to this. I do not think I am better than anyone else, or that I am more worthy to recieve God over anyone else.
DarwinFish said:
My name isnt Darwin Fish to **** you off, its Darwin Fish because its a topic Im trying to learn more about.
I was not offended by you in the least allbeit at bit confused.
DarwinFish said:
Take care. And try not to be so closed minded, walking the streets, thinking "That man there is going to hell because he has cheated on his wife in the past." Because you ARE not the judge.
Being closed minded is including everyone as a child of God?
DarwinFish said:
Spreading the word of God is a wonderful thing to do, but do it with an open mind and pure heart as originally intended, not with a ego-face and the words "WE'RE (christians)THE ONLY ONES WHO ARE RIGHT. BURN ALL YE WHO DO NOT ALSO FOLLOW".

I never intended to imply that. I never said anyone is going to burn in hell. I was responding to the OP (original post if you are unfamilar). Perhaps if one reads the OP greater understanding of my post will happen. I personally do not consider unbelivers evil. (It was meant as a demonstration that we are not to judge others..I apologize if I have confused you) The OP was do you tolerate evil and set up with a series of ? in a court of law. Similar to the judgment God will be passing. I am a Christian and the OP is a Christian, and that was which I was responding to. I never intended to say that by my judgement that the unbelivers should be burned in hell. I said all people are shorthanded compared to God. I beg your pardon if I have offended.
DarwinFish said:
You should give the people rights to chose who they want to follow.
I have never taken away the right of a person to decide who they want to follow. I have given them my testimony of coming to Christ, and how greatly He has changed my life.
DarwinFish said:
If its Christianity, thats wonderful. I totally love that. If they chose to be (example) Islamic as they were raised, then let it be. Dont throw your idea of their fate in their faces.
As Christians we are called to spread the word, and I am not embarrassed of it. It is not my fault what God says happens. In this situation I was responding the OP, and not to an unbeliver. I stated that everyone is imperfect rather they belive or not. The situation about the antichrist was an example that even though Christians are called to hate sin that sometimes we have to deal with it b/c it is part of God's plan.
DarwinFish said:
The lord will decide. Maybe by being judgemental and trying to predict the Antichrist is frusterating God. Who knows, but him? Dont get me wrong, I am christian, and I love the Lord, but im so tired of everyone throwing around this egotistical nonsense, truly inspired by their want for acceptance by others around them.
Yes the Lord will decide, and not me. That is exactly what my point was. We are called to watch for signs and if you would like I will give you the scripture reference word for word unchanged. Acceptance really does not mean anything to me. I have lost friends over comming to Christ b/c I no longer engage in gossip or go out to the bars etc. They think I am boring b/c I no longer take pleasure in things that have just ended up being empty persuits and emotional time bombs blowing up in my face. Does not mean I think I am better than they are. On the contrary I am no longer fun enough for them.
 
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Good and Evil are relative concepts, they are not absolute. Many people have many different ideas of good and evil.

Good and Evil also cannot exist without each other, as they are relative concepts. For the concept, "good" to exist, the concept "evil" must exist. For this reason, if you wish, you may be intolerant of evil, but as long as you believe good exists, evil will exist as well.
 
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It's impossible to read the bible and discern what is right and wrong. God supposedly is against adultery, yet he used that as a way to punish David. Read II Sam. 12:11-12, God makes David's wives sleep with his neighbor and makes sure that it is during the daylight so that everyone knows about it [I guess to add to the humiliation]. What is right and wrong is cultural.
 
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I love being close minded to anything but GODs word.

Do you wish to call that fundi thought? Im good with that.

I think those who accuse others of being fundies can not understand the Lord's word well enough to see the closeness that fundi actuall has w/the Lord. Out of this ignorance a different kind of hate or disdain is formed for that fundi "hater".

I tend to agree w/this post that tolerance of worldly thought and action has slipped its way into modernday Christian thinking producing the non-fundi like qualities that most of Christiandom is current made of. I call this the great falling away. It wont be long though, folks, when these so called fundi principles and thought are seen for what they really are, the Lord's calling from His word.

I would much rather be a fundi then a lukewarm taker of the Lords wrath.
 
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