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I personally think that the Passion is a very good attempt at an depiction of what happened back then. The goal of the movie was to really show what Jesus went through and I think that it follows the scriptures very well in that aspect. Although I would not consider the film entirely accurate, I would say that it is a very realistic guess based on scriptual evidence.
 
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Movies like the Passion, or books on Christ are a good example of what happened back then? Or are they just creative people wanting to make a living? I had to write a paper on this, and I thought it would be cool to see what other people said besides me.

Do I think they're entirely accurate? No.

Do I think the people who made the movie are trying to do so just for the money? No.

I think that Mel Gibson was well-intended in spreading the Gospel when he made Passion. There have been others (Jeffrey Hunter, for instance) who played Christ for their own motives (so it would seem, at least), but for the most part I believe that at least some portion of every re-telling of the Gospel is intended to be a positive thing while also providing an income within the art the people have chosen to express themselves in.

For example (just to be clear):

Mel Gibson is a director.

Mel Gibson is a Catholic.

Mel Gibson must make a living to support his family.

Mel Gibson wants to spread the Gospel.

Why not combine the two?

The result: The Passion of the Christ.
 
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Movies like the Passion, or books on Christ are a good example of what happened back then? Or are they just creative people wanting to make a living? I had to write a paper on this, and I thought it would be cool to see what other people said besides me.

Actually no, we just went over this on Wednesday. The passion is completly innaccurate.

Jesus didn't speak Latin, Greek was the common language in the eastern parts of the Roman Empire.

Jesus was probably nailed through the wrist which was considered part of the hand in Roman times.

Jesus was portrayed as having suffered more then others. Thats not true, the gospels would have made a note of it if he had. The gospels just note that he was flogged and crucified, just like any common criminal. It wasn't how much he suffered it was WHO suffered.

The trial that Christ had before the Jewish authorities is portrayed as a secret trial, and while it might have been kept secret from the Romans, the movie shows that not the entire council was there. However the bible says it was before a full council.

One of the gospels has Mary nearby, but she wasn't at the foot of the cross.

Parts of it such as the woman who stops to wipe off Jesus's face (I think she's the adultress he saved from stoning) and tried to give him a drink of water actually came from a crazy nun that had all these dreams and wrote them down. She belived she had visions of all of this, however she was considered crazy by everyone else in her convent.

Jesus didn't carry a full cross he carried the cross beam like everyone else. Plus a full cross would have weighed 350 pounds. Not something that is physically possible for a man to carry in the condition Jesus was in. (Doctor verified)

Here is another thing

The film follows Jesus along the 'Via Dolorosa' (way of Sorrow), by way of the fourteen 'Stations of the Cross'. These are played out in detail although they are not described in the Bible. It is worth noting that some contemporary Catholics explicitly see the Stations of the Cross as being a help to meditation, rather than a statement of historical reality.

http://www.facingthechallenge.org/passion_historical.php

Oh oh and what happened to Joseph of Armethia who buried Christ. He's completly written out of the movie with Mary pulling him down and him laying in Mary's arms in a pose of a typical catholic sculpture of the event.

There is more stuff then this. Minor stuff like the snake in the garden where Jesus prayed wasn't mentioned in the gospels.

Jesus did not invent the elevated table.

This is a typical traditionalist Catholic interpretation of the Passion. Complete with Jesus speaking Latin (The language they consider divine) an over focus on Mary, mother of Jesus, and an attempt to show that Christ suffered more then others. (But its more important who he was then how he suffered).

On top of that it concentrates on the crucifixition. We timed that it shows aproximatly 43 seconds of easter Sunday and the rest of the movie is on Good Friday. (with little scenes here and there of gospel events).
 
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Gibson took a lot of artistic license. To his credit, it was beautiful (not the gore, but the little touches like the teardrop from Heaven and "This will never catch on!") and it was better than some of the artistic license taken in some other Jesus films, which portrayed a metrosexual, sissy Jesus.
 
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I dunno, I really enjoyed the movie, it made me want to preach for like 3 straight weeks haha. But I just don't think Im educated enough to know if it is really good for people who dont know Christ to watch that, incase it isn't accurate. You dont want to give the wrong idea to someone wanting to become a believer ya know?
 
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wait spaghetti? your gonna have to explain that one haha. i think everyone got impacted in some way. it was crazy emotional
The scourging left his back looking like spaghetti by they time they were done with it.
 
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ew. :) ya now im not gonna eat it. lol jk. i wish i could portray something like that. how did yall feel about da vinci code? I thought it was an awesome movie, but it just was so innacurate. I mean the author of the book stated it was fiction but I dunno, I would never talk about God in a way that was fictional. I dont that gets you such a good seat with the Big man.
 
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hm.. true and maybe i shouldnt have, but it didnt change my views at all. i heard so many christians began to have doubts after that movie and it made me laugh. obviously to watch a movie and doubt after, you never had a good relationoship with God in the first place, especially when he stated it was fiction. Maybe Im just a movie freak. You name it, Ive seen it, unless it's like nudity ew.
 
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hm.. true and maybe i shouldnt have, but it didnt change my views at all. i heard so many christians began to have doubts after that movie and it made me laugh. obviously to watch a movie and doubt after, you never had a good relationoship with God in the first place, especially when he stated it was fiction. Maybe Im just a movie freak. You name it, Ive seen it, unless it's like nudity ew.
Well, it's a good thing it didn't change your views, but the main reasons I didn't see it were:

1) It would have been a non-entertaining waste of time. It would have been the opposite of entertaining to me.

2) I would be financially supporting that movie. It wouldn't make a big difference, but it's bad enough the church gave it all the free advertising it did and on principle,I wasn't going to make it any worse.
 
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I just wish I knew why so many protestants willingly endorsed a very Catholic view of the crusifixion.

Once I learned about the innaccuracies. (Because I was too lazy to put much effort into thinking about it or researching it) I felt a little cheated.

Whats worse is parts where derieved from the visions of a nun who everyone else considered insane.
 
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Nope. Seeing that the gospels themselves tend to conflict about the life/death of Jesus, I have even less reason to think stuff based off of them with some artistic licencing is accurate.

Better to avoid anything with a definitive of jesus being the Christ in the opening sentence and go for academic material that tries to focus on whats there.
 
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