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Do you think dangers lie in secular music

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I want to know from everyone if they think there are any dangers in secular music. This can range from all types of music. I will respond after some post. But when I say dangers I mean dangers of living unmoral lives, darkness in sin, or sex drugs and rock and roll. Let me know what you think.
 

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Well, here's the thing.

Things like sex and drugs and living immorally is entirely up to personal decisions. Someone can use the excuse that "the devil made them do it", but that's just an attempt to dodge repsonsibilty. So no-- music will NOT make you do anything.

Christians, as a whole, have seemed to place too much importance on music. Not only do they seem to think that listening to secular music will make you go out and rape someone off the street... but they also think that if you expose non-Christians to Christian music they will suddenly see the light and we'd have a mass revival.

Neither of those are true, of course. Sure, God can do anything and so someone CAN indeed come to him through a song at the right time. But he could also use the scent of Starbucks coffee if he wanted.

Anyway. i'm rambling. My answer to the above question posed is "no."
 
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... but they also think that if you expose non-Christians to Christian music they will suddenly see the light and we'd have a mass revival.

Heh heh. The Christian music industry wishes.

I think we need to get past these highly defined lines of what is secular and Christian, what is definitely holy and definintely profane. U2 has kicked every other band with Christian members in the face (and everywhere else) as far as getting a relevant and godly message out in the mainstream without it being slaughtered by critics. This, along with other factors, is because they haven't tried to immerse themselves in some Christian subculture, like 99% of the Christian music industry has done. They make krappy "Jesus skipping through daisies" music with no creativity or impact that only Christians are going to consider listening to or buying. I honestly think there is more danger in immersing yourself in that subculture - being not only "not of the world", but also "not in the world". We can't blame the dark for being dark if we're only shining light where light already shines.
 
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The answer is no, dangers don't lie within secular music, per se. The question to ask, is, how do the lyrics of the music and the lifestyle of the musician reflect on the life God wants us to live? The same thing can (and should) be applied to our favorite athletes, politicians, authors, etc.

When I was younger, bands such as Stryper and Petra were taking a huge beating from the Christian community as "godless Jesus rock". In fact, KISS covered Petra's song "God Gave Rock and Roll To You".

Still, God calls us to be separate from the world ... not a part of the world. How can a Christian listen to Marilyn Manson without letting the message of the music affect his/her testimony?
 
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Well, yes. But there's also some incredible danger in walking. You could trip and potentially mess with your feet, or maybe your face if you trip badly enough to fall on it. If one is walking absentmindedly, there is the potential that you could runinto an inanimate object like a pole, and, in a worst-case scenario, a vehicle could cross your path.
 
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Wayfarer said:
If your taste in music is remotely decent, you do not have to worry about themes of "sex, drugs, and violence" prevailing in the songs.
You're right! Audio Adrenaline has so much better music than Jimi Hendrix, anyway!

It's all soo clear now...
 
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Yes secular music can be and is bad for you. There's a spirit that moves within it. If someone is high on drugs and a song pops in his head, you don't think there is a spirit behind it? If you can say that secular music isn't bad for you then you must say that christian music isn't good for you. If christian music feeds your sprit then secular music must do the same.
 
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BOJAX said:
dangers lie in weak and influential minds

/thread

this guy knows his stuff

seriously, stuff like music, movies, tv, and video games can only really affect you if you're weak minded enough to be influenced by such things
 
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Adam2112 said:
I want to know from everyone if they think there are any dangers in secular music. This can range from all types of music. I will respond after some post. But when I say dangers I mean dangers of living unmoral lives, darkness in sin, or sex drugs and rock and roll. Let me know what you think.
 
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Adam2112 said:
I want to know from everyone if they think there are any dangers in secular music. This can range from all types of music. I will respond after some post. But when I say dangers I mean dangers of living unmoral lives, darkness in sin, or sex drugs and rock and roll. Let me know what you think.

No, not from secular music. From watching "Full House", maybe.
 
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WELL, MY HUSBAND IS A PRODUCER AND CEO OF HIS OWN RECORD LABEL WHICH IS SECULAR RAP MUSIC. WE USED TO ARGUE ABOUT THAT ISSUE OF WHAT GOD THINKS OF THIS MUSIC. TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH I DON'T THINK IT ENDANGERS US, WE MAKE OUR OWN CHOICES AND IF MUSIC IS SUPPOSED TO DRAW YOU AWAY FROM OUR LORD THEN YOU WEREN'T FOR REAL ABOUT YOUR SALVATION WITH HIM. MUSIC IS FROM GOD, AND I DON'T FEEL GOD IS
IN RAP BUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE RAPPERS AND SINGERS ARENT DEVILISH PEOPLE, AS A MATTER OF FACT, MOST REALLY DO LOVE GOD LIKE YOU AND ME, THERE ONLY HUMANS, AND IF YOU LISTEN TO FOLKS LIKE JAY-Z,KANYE WEST,DMX,AND 50 CENT ( I MEAN THIER CD'S) YOU WILL FIND OUT THAT THEIR JUST LIKE US GOING THROUGH A SPIRITUAL WARFARE WITHIN THEMSELVES, YOU HAVE TO PRAY FOR ALL THESE PEOPLE TOO! YOU
THINK BECOUSE THEIR FAMOUS THAT THEY DONT HAVE A SOUL EITHER? THE PROBLEM WITH US CHRISTIANS IS THAT WE ARE QUICK TO JUDGE THE UNRIGHTEOUS AND WE FORGET THEIR INHERITING THE SAME PROMISE AND LIFE OUR GOD HAS FOR US WHEN WE GOT SAVED.:hug::cool::p
 
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WhenFinallySetFree777 said:
I think we need to get past these highly defined lines of what is secular and Christian, what is definitely holy and definintely profane. U2 has kicked every other band with Christian members in the face (and everywhere else) as far as getting a relevant and godly message out in the mainstream without it being slaughtered by critics. This, along with other factors, is because they haven't tried to immerse themselves in some Christian subculture, like 99% of the Christian music industry has done. They make krappy "Jesus skipping through daisies" music with no creativity or impact that only Christians are going to consider listening to or buying. I honestly think there is more danger in immersing yourself in that subculture - being not only "not of the world", but also "not in the world". We can't blame the dark for being dark if we're only shining light where light already shines.

Right. Freakin'. On! :thumbsup:
 
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Skinster007 said:
Yes secular music can be and is bad for you. There's a spirit that moves within it.

Who fed you this rubbish?

Skinster007 said:
If someone is high on drugs and a song pops in his head, you don't think there is a spirit behind it?

No. The drugs are behind it. Are you aware of the chemical changes that occur in the brain when "drugs" are ingested?

Skinster007 said:
If you can say that secular music isn't bad for you then you must say that christian music isn't good for you.

Finally, I agree with you. Sort-of. Most Christian music isn't good for true Spiritual growth, and advancing in The Jesus Way (our relationship with Jesus). Most Christian music is a hundred miles wide and an inch deep. It's tripe.

Your entire argument is, by necessity, based on the assumption that the entire CCM industry is populated by "smiley-happy-pie-in-the-sky-Christians-who-just-want-to-save-the-world-from-sin" kind of people. After all, that's the only way the CCM industry could fend off the "spirit" that moves within secular music, right?

Old Hymns are in the same category. During the Baroque and Classical periods, most of the music revered by Baptist, Catholic, Pentecostal, and all other churches today was met with strong resistance at first. Why? Because it was "different" and because much of it was written by composers who wrote secular music as well.

Seriously, would you have us believe that there is a "spirit" that moves within the symphonies of Mozart, Beethoven, or Handel?
 
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