Do You Respect Charles Darwin's Work?

[Orthodox Andrew]

Quite right, but his works unfortunately also reveal the man. Ramblings like, 'In all things, man is the superior to woman...' or 'the state of the married man is no better than that of the negro...'
I believe his personal arrogance jaded his work.

Galileo might well be compared to Jeremiah the prophet, a voice crying out despite the powers that be. However, Darwin has more in common with Balaam, the one whose donkey made more sense. And yes, I'll get off this thread. Point made. I don't like him. I don't like his work.

Darwin gave us possibly the most important scientific theory in natural selection. Darwin's ideas are the bases of biology.

 

[Doc Dilly]

Darwin did not come up with the idea of natural selection. Creationists of the day had it first. Darwin was vaunted to religious adoration however, because his theory gave many the excuse they were looking for to deny the existance of God; finally they also had a comforting theory to help them justify their racsist views. Good Lord! Just the other day a man describing himself as an evolutionist and college educated wrote our local paper trying to make the case that since evolution is true, we should drop all this 'racial nonsense' and just admit that their are different species of humans and some are just not as evolved as others. And he is merely just my most recent example, many otherwise intelligent people have followed the same thinking.

This is the thinking that lead thousands of aboriginal Autralians to be slaughtered and their heads removed for American museums. (After all, they weren't even the same 'species' as us.) It's the same thinking behind the eugenics movement and the 'light' Hitler saw (and I know some people have described him as a 'good' Lutheran, and some a 'good' Catholic, however, he may have mouthed the words, but they were meaningless) when he realized it was fine to slaughter the 'less evolved' Jews. Karl Marx wanted to dedicate his 'Communist Manifesto' to Darwin. He was a huge fan. He was another one who saw Darwin's work as a way of removing God from the picture, and in his case, he saw the state taking His place.

And to call Darwin's idea's the basis of biology is to give the man way too much credit. There have been too many other REAL scientists who deserve the credit.

Now, I have better things to do than waste my time on what loser Darwin was, if you adore his work, then, hey, it's still a free country. Go adore.

 

[artybloke]

Darwin did not come up with the idea of natural selection. Creationists of the day had it first.

That's your first lie. Other people came up with the idea concurrently with Darwin: Wallace, for instance, and the idea was also found in a very obscure publication that Darwin probably never even saw; but he was the first to make the link with the origin of species.

Now, I have better things to do than waste my time on what loser Darwin was, if you adore his work, then, hey, it's still a free country. Go adore.

The rest of your post is just nonsense. There is nothing in evolution to justify racism. In fact, slavery in your own country was justified by born-again Christians using texts from the Bible. And many of the people who slaughtered the aboriginals of your own country were Christians.

Well, if wish to put your faith in proven liars such as Ham, Gish, Hovind and co, it's a free country.

Darwin makes them look like protozoa.

 

[Doc Dilly]

Just a few things, artbloke. 1) No need to call me a liar. I said natural selection, which you apparently equate with evolution. Not quite.

2) Darwin knew all about the evolutionary idea. He stole it from his grandpa.

You should know Desmond King-Hele, a fellow of the Royal Society, has published a new biography of Erasmus Darwin, the grandfather of Charles Darwin.
In it he argues not only that Erasmus had already published a theory of evolution in his 1794 book Zoonomia, but had set forth therein the idea of natural selection. Indeed, Darwin had read Erasmus’ book at age 18.

Oh, I take issue, there is plenty of room for racsism in evolutionary theory. True, Christians have never been perfect, but evolution makes excuses in the hearts of men to take evil to a whole new level.

Darwin makes creationists look like protozoa? Uh, according to his own biographers Darwim was a lousy student. He did miserably in grade school, failed med school because he was too busy partying (historical fact,) he failed seminary for the same reason. He is recorded as not even listening in biology class, so this is not a trained scientist or biologist. An influential relative finally got him his 'gig' on the SS Beagle. So this is a lazy rich kid that couldn't get a job on his own.

Man, if creationists had credentials like that, you're right, they might NOT be worth listening to.

Now, I am rarely on the web for foolishness like this, so if I do not respond for some time, it's because I'm working for a living. But we'll be Socialist before long, I'm sure. Then I should have plenty of time to monitor junk like this.

 

[artybloke]

Oh, I take issue, there is plenty of room for racsism in evolutionary theory. True, Christians have never been perfect, but evolution makes excuses in the hearts of men to take evil to a whole new level.

Now let's just turn that around:

There is plenty of room for racism in Christianity. True, evolutionists have never been perfect but Christianity makes excuses in the hearts of men to take evil to a whole new level.

See? it's just the same. For evidence, take a look at the way slavers justified slavery using the Bible, racists used the Bible in the South, the Apartheid regime was shored up by Biblical fundamentalism in South Africa. Or the way people justify bombing family planning clinics. Or the way the Church persecuted the old, the weak and the poor during the witch-hunts, or sent children to fight in the Crusades.

Anything can be used to create evil if it is twisted out of shape and deliberately misunderstood. Including evolution. Including Christianity. Including Islam. Including atheism.

And Creationism is a lie. It's supported by liars like Ham, Hovind, et al some of whom don't even tell the truth about their "credentials".