You say you are christians, this is good, but do you live your life like a christian? Do you lie? Do you adultery? Do you fornicate? Do you insult? Do you hurt? Do you judge? Do you do what is right according to bible?
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Do you live like a christians?
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define a christian please? (note: we all sin but too live in it is a different story so yes we all did what you put here)
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I don't ask for the saved, we all know that the saved cannot sin according to bible. But the christians, those who believe in Jesus and are his disciples. And I don't ask for those who sin often, because who commit sin is of the devil according to bible: 1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
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Being a Christian doesn't just make us FORGIVEN, it's WAY MORE than that~ If it doesn't clean up our lives and make us different from those around us, then we have no assurance that we are truly a Christian.
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amen brotha thanks for explaining we all sinners but change in grace to live like Christ because theres no darkness in God at all
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Sometimes telling the TRUTH is hurtful... It hurts the TELLER and the LISTENER.I've been banned from the Debate and Discussion forums because of hurtful comments.That said I do believe I'm a Christian.
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That belief is based on a misunderstanding of 1 John 3:9 (as it reads in the King James):
"Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: AND HE CANNOT SIN."
Most of the newer translations read more like this:
"No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning." (NIV)
John, in chapter two of that same epistle, says:
"My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. AND IF ANY MANY SIN, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous." {1 John 2:1}
How could John say, "if any many sin," if it were impossible for Christians to sin?
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As for Christians living like Christians:
"Why do you call me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say?" {Luke 6:46}
It certainly sounds like it's a bad thing to call ourselves Christians if we're not doing what Christ says.
"Why do you call me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say?" {Luke 6:46}
It certainly sounds like it's a bad thing to call ourselves Christians if we're not doing what Christ says.
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^ this.
The New Testament is Chuck full of sin. You don't think when the apostles abandoned Jesus they didn't commit the greatest sin of all? Yet, they were forgiven and wrote the New Testament and if it weren't for them, Christianity wouldn't exist.
That being said, yes I do live the life of a Christian. My question now is, do you? Do you feed and clothe the poor, spread the gospel, feeding and loving the very sheep of God, and your neighbor?
I think you're focusing too much on sin and forgetting what it means to be a Christian.
The New Testament is Chuck full of sin. You don't think when the apostles abandoned Jesus they didn't commit the greatest sin of all? Yet, they were forgiven and wrote the New Testament and if it weren't for them, Christianity wouldn't exist.
That being said, yes I do live the life of a Christian. My question now is, do you? Do you feed and clothe the poor, spread the gospel, feeding and loving the very sheep of God, and your neighbor?
I think you're focusing too much on sin and forgetting what it means to be a Christian.
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I hope you get UNBANNED soon, as I really appreciate your posts
It's a long ban of six months, then there's no guarantee that I'll be reinstated. They're pretty upset with me.
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That is a LONG time!It's a long ban of six months, then there's no guarantee that I'll be reinstated. They're pretty upset with me.
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You neglected to ask the most important question: Do you love God with all of your being? This is the First and Great Commandment (Matthew 22:36-38) and is the place where obedience to God starts; it is the ground out of which all the Christian's obedience is to grow. We don't commit adultery because we love God; we don't lie because we love God; we don't fornicate because we love God.
The apostle Paul remarked in his first letter to the Corinthians that no matter what we say, or know, or do, if love isn't our motivation - first for God and then for others - it is all useless.
1 Corinthians 13:1-3
1 If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.
2 If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.
3 And if I give all my possessions to feed the poor, and if I surrender my body to be burned, but do not have love, it profits me nothing.
Many Christians are fussing over "living right," being moral in their conduct, but have hearts that are far from God, that don't desire Him above all else, that don't hunger and thirst after Him, that don't love Him. They chase down sins in their life, trying to stamp them out, one-by-one, not realizing that sin is just a symptom of a heart that doesn't love God above all else, that is not submitted to Him in love at all times, denying Self as a daily habit of living. And God takes no pleasure in outward obedience that is not motivated by a deep love for Him; for an obedient, moral life isn't an end in itself but merely the means by which we come to know and enjoy God fully. Knowing Him in rich, daily fellowship is the point of Christian morality, not being moral for its own sake.
And so it is, that we have the frightening story of Matthew 7:
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’
23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’
Here are people standing before Christ at the Final Judgment, making a case for their membership in God's kingdom on the basis of the good things they'd done, things they'd done in Christ's name, in fact. But Jesus responds to them by saying he never knew them. Why? Is it not God's will that demons be cast out? Yes, it is His will. Is it not God's will that mighty works be done in Christ's name? Yes, it is His will. Is it not God's will that preaching (prophesying) be done in Christ's name? Yes, it is His will. So, why does Jesus respond by casting out these people doing God's will as strangers?
If you were going to make a case to God about why you should be let into His kingdom, wouldn't you start with your obedience to the First and Greatest commandment God has given? It is, after all, the FIRST and GREATEST commandment. But the people in the Matthew 7 story don't say a word about their obedience to this primary, this chief, this ultimate, divine command. Why? Because they didn't actually love God. Like the Pharisees, they were obedient in outward respects but not in the most important inner one. They honored God with their lips, with their external obedience, but their hearts were far from him. (Matthew 15:8-9)
This is the terrible danger in moralism. It can seem like pleasing God, when in fact it is repugnant to Him because it does not arise from love for Him. And so, the most important question we ask ourselves as Christians must always be: Do I love God with all that I am?
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