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@1stcenturylady Are you able to answer my question? Once a person comes to Christ, is it inappropriate to pray as Jesus taught?
The scriptures I quote say that the saved do not sin because the old sinful self dies and a new self is made by God.
People may not like to hear that, but its what the scripture says.
Then you are reading a different Bible...
“We know that anyone born of God does not continue to sin; the One who was born of God keeps them safe, and the evil one cannot harm them” (1 John 5:18)
You're isolating a passage and over emphasizing it
Most reasonable people who read all of 1 John and 2 John would not conclude what you're concluding.
Isnt your statement of "willfully sin" an assumption as well? You posted a scripture that states "he that sins is of the devil" But then you added the assumption of "willfully" as to make an exception for some sins........an exception not mentioned in the word. So which is it?
I willfully sin. Does this mean I'm not a Christian?
Idk, did you repent?
That's a good question.
It is probably a stumbling block for some that repent looks and sounds quite similar to remorse and regret when it is utterly different; repentance being akin to my looking back now to my playing with star wars figures as a child and having zero desire to do so now. At the time it was great, but thinking of it now its idiotic and holds no attraction at all. That is what repentance actually is - so the idea of going back to a sinfulness we have repented is an unthinkable act.
Its unthinkable, to go back to the sin you've just repented on, in a perfect world we repent and never do it again ever, but it does happen. When its habitual, or something that is an addiction, there's a time when people relapse. That why we have to kill our flesh daily, because as long as we are in this flesh, we are prone to sinning, death is our last enemy.
But as long as we recognize it, repent, and keep meditating on the Word, that wiggle room for sinning becomes less and less, until like you said, you can look back and see it for what it was.
Of course. But do you understand anything about sin? Are there differences in type to God, or is all sin willful sin?
I see you are Presbyterian, so I doubt we will ever see the power of God the same.
If we go back, we may be regretful or remorseful but we have not repented.
All ten virgins thought themselves saved, but not all actually were. Many say "Lord, Lord" but are not saved.
That raises questions for ALL of us to consider.
Even though the Word emptied Himself to become man, the baby Jesus, the seed of the Father was in Him from the beginning of conception. Therefore, during His life even before He was baptized by the Spirit for ministry and miracles, He didn’t sin, though He was tempted by Satan, just as we are. And for us, God always makes a way of escape.
That same seed is in Christ’s followers who have been baptized with the Spirit. 1 John 3:says, 9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.
This is also why we must have that seed in us. Romans 8:9 "But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His."
If you still willfully sin (and don't be spiritually ignorant and say all sin is willful. There are also unknown (to us) sins that are not sins unto death in 1 John 5. Willful sins are rebellious against God - and without repentance will produce death.), do as Jesus said, "Remember therefore from where you have fallen; repent and do the first works." So what are the first works? Acts 2:38, I believe are those in a nutshell.
I loved the line "God always makes a way of escape (from sin)."
I interpreted the situation as if one is truly born again, then he won't willfully sin. If they willfully sin, then they didn't have his seed. The example of this verse is Adam. He had no Bible, but had God's word and presence. We'd like to think that we hold out longer than a week. It may be many, many years before we fall for Satan's lies and deception or that we ever fall for it at all. We remain faithful. That's the thing. Satan has always been there, hasn't he? So to remain born of God, then we have to take pause and think twice as we are tempted, lied to or even deceived that there is a way to escape. It takes faith to not willfully fall, so listen to that little voice in your head to not do something. Or in some cases, to do something to help someone out.
Since you didn't answer my question, I'll ask it again:
Well, what do you say? Are you merely called or do you consider yourself chosen?
You say you're a Calvinist, so this can't be a straddle-the-fence answer for you.
I have answered these questions and will not be answering people who ignore my answers and post the same question again and again.
That same seed is in Christ’s followers who have been baptized with the Spirit. 1 John 3:says, 9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.
This is also why we must have that seed in us. Romans 8:9 "But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His."
"Remember therefore from where you have fallen; repent and do the first works." So what are the first works? Acts 2:38, I believe are those in a nutshell.
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