Do you have to keep confessing sin through out your life to be saved? (See 1 John 1:9)

lamb7 said:

I have question.

After you are supposedly saved what if you sin and forget to repent or ask for forgiveness and/or change behaviors and you die suddenly is your salvation lost? Or do we have to anxiously be always searching out what sins we did and ask for forgiveness? I understand if we do wrong we should strive to be obediant out of love but non of us are God and perfect so I am truly trying to understand what happens if one sins and I notice many Christians do sin daily and you miss or forget or dont even realize you sinned and die, does Jesus sacrifice and perfectness not cover that? Thanks.

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First, if God convicts the world of sin (John 16:8), then how much more do you think God is capable doing that with His own people?

Second, God is the giver and taker of life. God also knows the hearts of everyone. So nobody dies accidentally. So if a believer dies without getting a chance to repent, that means that they were the kind of Christian that was going to justify sin an evil (Whereby God is going to condemn them).

Three, not all sin is the same. Jesus said there is a greater sin (John 19:11). 1 John 5:16-17 says there is a sin unto death and a sin not unto death. Jesus said to the Pharisees that they ignored the WEIGHTIER matters of the Law like: Love, justice, faith, and mercy (See Luke 11:42, and Matthew 23:23). Peter says in 1 Peter 3:21 that baptism is not for salvation. Yet, it is a command as a part of the great commission (Matthew 28:19). But Paul says that Christ did not send him to baptize but to preach the gospel (1 Corinthians 1:17). Psalms 19:12 talks about secret or hidden faults. Matthew 12:31-32 says that speaking bad words against the Holy Ghost can never be forgiven and speaking bad words against the Son (Jesus) can be forgiven. The sin of worshiping the beast in the future is so bad to GOD that their names are not even written in the book of life since the foundation of the world (See Revelation 13:8, and Revelation 17:8). Even life teaches us that not all sin is the same. For do you consider the breaking of the Law of going over the speed limit by 5 miles per hour (in driving a motor vehicle) as the same as the crime as murder? Surely not.

So what about James 2:10?

Well, this is the only verse that suggests (at first glance with a quick reading) that all sin is the same, and a reader who does use this verse to support this view has to do at the expense of ignoring so many other verses in the Bible.

James here is not talking about ceremonial laws in the New Covenant like baptism, the Lord's supper, etc. James is talking about the "Royal Law" (i.e. to love your neighbor) (James 2:8).


So in verse 10: When James says if you keep the whole Law , he is referring to the whole of the Royal Law (in loving your neighbor) and if you offend in one point in the keeping of this whole law of loving your neighbor, you are guilty of breaking all of God's laws. Verse 11 confirms this by it saying, "Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law." Paul says that loving your neighbor is the equivalent of the Moral Law (like do not murder, do not covet, etc.) (See Romans 13:8-10).

Please keep in mind that we should obey God in even the most smallest things. A Christian should not seek to justify any wrong doing. But the point here is that they have to realize that certain sins will not condemn them like other sins can. A Christian will want to confess, even minor transgressions of faults (See Psalms 19:12).

Four, God's grace does not will cover willful grievous sin. For if we willfully sin after we receive the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sin (See Hebrews 10:26).

#1. Numbers 35:16-18 says it only takes on act of murder to be a murderer; And Leviticus 20:10 says it only takes on act of adultery to be an adulterer.

#2. Jesus Himself regarded just looking at woman once as an act of adultery (Matthew 5:28).

#3. John says, "No murderer has eternal life abiding in them." (1 John 3:15).

#4. Proverbs 6:32 says "Whosoever commits adultery with a woman lacks understanding: he that does it destroys his own soul."

#5. Jesus Himself says that just looking at a woman in lust (Which is adultery) is potential for a person to be cast bodily in hell fire (See Matthew 5:28-30).

#6. David needed to confess of his sin in order to be forgiven (See Psalms 51).

#7. 1 John 1:9 says if we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

#8. Revelation 21:8 says, "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." Murderers and whoremongers will be cast into the lake of fire. All liars will be cast into the lake of fire. ALL liars, and not just some. NO murderer has eternal life abiding in them (1 John 3:15).

nChrist said:

As a Christian, the Holy Spirit of God lives in your heart and seals your heart as a purchased possession of the Lord Jesus Christ. No combination of powers can break the seal of the Holy Spirit. Salvation is not on the installment payment plan. You're either saved or you're not, regardless of whether you sought forgiveness for your last sin or not. The work of Salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ on the Cross is perfect and complete.

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What is the condition of having the seal of God?

Scripture says, God the Father has set his seal upon those who labor for the meat that endures unto everlasting life.


In fact, what is a guarantee?

Guarantee receipts normally have conditions which you can normally read in the ”fine print”. If you get a guarantee receipt for a certain product and you would like to make a claim, the store might request that you bring both the product and the receipt with you before they are willing to look at your claim. They might also request that you do this within a certain time frame and that you state what’s wrong with the product. Another example could be if someone buys you a bus ticket which guarantees you to get to a certain city PROVIDED that 1) you don’t throw away your ticket, 2) that you embark the right bus on the right time, and 3) that you STAY ON the bus until it arrives at the city. The BUS will arrive at the city as promised, but the question is if YOU will choose to be among the bus passengers.


Again, circumcision was a ”seal” for those under the old covenant.


This seal WAS broken and guaranteed nothing when those who were circumcised broke the covenant and were cut off from the people of God.


As you can see, this seal was conditioned on continued faith and obedience. The Holy Spirit marks us as God’s children of the new covenant but if we abandon the faith, and/or live in disobedience then the Spirit of God no longer remains in us and we are no longer sealed. Circumcised (sealed) jews were broken off through unbelief.


God speaks of the Israelites who ”grieved” His Holy Spirit in their rebellion. These Jews were cut off from the promise of entering God’s rest and they became God’s enemies.


In the NT the ”rest” is the eternal rest that all believers will attain. The book of Hebrews continually speak of the promise of eternal rest, in combination with WARNINGS to believers not to miss out on this promised rest through hardening their hearts in unbelief, just as the Israelites did who rebelled against God during the Exodus (Read Hebrews 3 and Hebrews 10).

ToBeLoved said:

So what you are saying is that God, perfect and holy, is trying to fool us with some "fine print" on the guarantee He gives us of the Holy Spirit?

Your God must be very different from the God I know.

I wish you would get away from these odd explanations of who God is based upon sinful mankinds marketing and sales practices.

If God becomes sinful and a swindler, I will go back and look at your examples again.

You are not doing God any favors by misrepresenting his Holy nature as a sinful one. Trying to convince or change someone's mind shouldn't take on an incorrect theology to do so

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The fine print is usually just a phrase that means a person is not reading everything. God is not fooling anyone if they refuse to obey His Word.

"And we are witnesses to these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him." (Acts of the Apostles 5:32).

nChrist said:

Here's a simple Scripture that speaks volumes:

(Romans 6:23 [KJV]) For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

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And you have to read that verse in light of the rest of the Bible.

"They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate." (Titus 1:16).

"If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; He is proud, knowing nothing, "(1 Timothy 6:3-4).

"...God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble." (James 4:6).

"What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? (Romans 6:1-2).

"And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him." (Hebrews 5:9).

"Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord" (Hebrews 12:14).

“...God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth” (2 Thessalonians 2:13).

“For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.” (Romans 8:13).

”If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? (Matthew 16:24-26).

"But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: For there is no respect of persons with God." (Romans 2:8-11).

”And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.” (Revelation 22:12-15).

"For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved." (John 3:20).

“For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.” (Romans 11:21-22).

nChrist said:

Faith Not Works
Romans 3:19-28 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. 20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. 21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. 27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Faith Righteousness
The Ministry of the Apostle Paul was difficult because the Jews had only known the Law of Moses, and most of them didn't know or understand the difference between works under the Law and works as appreciation to GOD. Circumcision was an act under the Law of Moses, and that's why the Jews were known as the Circumcision in the Holy Bible.

As a contrast, the Gentiles had been viewed as unclean and unfit to share in the Holy Things of GOD, and the Gentiles were known as the Uncircumcision. JESUS CHRIST changed all of this. We must keep in mind that no man was ever able to keep all of the Law, Jew or not, and that's why GOD'S WORD speaks of JESUS CHRIST fulfilling all of the Law most perfectly. Why? HE was GOD made manifest in the flesh and the ONLY one who was ever able to keep all of the Law in perfection and holiness. For the same reason, HE was the only PERFECT AND HOLY ONE able to make a ONCE FOR ALL PERFECT SACRIFICE, one that would be completely Pleasing and Acceptable to GOD the FATHER Forever. GOD was never happy or satisfied with the sacrifices and burnt offerings of men for their sins, but GOD was completely Pleased with the PERFECT SACRIFICE OF CHRIST ON THE CROSS.

Romans 4:1-25 What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather, hath found according to the flesh? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not toward God. 3 For what saith the scripture? And Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned unto him for righteousness. 4 Now to him that worketh, the reward is not reckoned as of grace, but as of debt. 5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is reckoned for righteousness. 6 Even as David also pronounceth blessing upon the man, unto whom God reckoneth righteousness apart from works, 7 saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, And whose sins are covered. 8 Blessed is the man to whom, the Lord will not reckon sin. 9 Is this blessing then pronounced upon the circumcision, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say, To Abraham his faith was reckoned for righteousness. 10 How then was it reckoned? when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision? Not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision: 11 and he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had while he was in uncircumcision; that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be in uncircumcision, that righteousness might be reckoned unto them; 12 and the father of circumcision to them who not only are of the circumcision, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham which he had in uncircumcision. 13 For not through the law was the promise to Abraham or to his seed that he should be heir of the world, but through the righteousness of faith. 14 For if they that are of the law are heirs, faith is made void, and the promise is made of none effect: 15 for the law worketh wrath; but where there is no law, neither is there transgression. 16 For this cause it is of faith, that it may be according to grace; to the end that the promise may be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all 17 (as it is written, A father of many nations have I made thee) before him whom he believed, even God, who giveth life to the dead, and calleth the things that are not, as though they were. 18 Who in hope believed against hope, to the end that he might become a father of many nations, according to that which had been spoken, So shall thy seed be. 19 And without being weakened in faith he considered his own body now as good as dead (he being about a hundred years old), and the deadness of Sarah's womb; 20 yet, looking unto the promise of God, he wavered not through unbelief, but waxed strong through faith, giving glory to God, 21 and being fully assured that what he had promised, he was able also to perform. 22 Wherefore also it was reckoned unto him for righteousness. 23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was reckoned unto him; 24 but for our sake also, unto whom it shall be reckoned, who believe on him that raised Jesus our Lord from the dead, 25 who was delivered up for our trespasses, and was raised for our justification.

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No. You also need to walk in the light as He (Christ) is in the light for the blood of Jesus to cleanse you of all sin (See 1 John 1:7). Walking in the light is in context to 1 John 2:9-10 that says we are to love our brother (Which is a part of abiding in the light). Hebrews 5:9 essentially says that Christ is the author of eternal salvation to all who OBEY Him.

There is a difference between works of the Law and works of faith.

Actually, Paul criticized the Corinthians because they were still on the milk of the Word (1 Corinthians 3:2), when they should have moved on to the meat of the Word (i.e. to discern between good and evil - Hebrews 5:14). Yes, we need to accept Jesus as our Savior and believe in Him, but we also need to obey Jesus if we really consider Him to be our Lord (Luke 6:46). If Jesus is not our Lord, then somebody else is (Romans 6:16) (1 John 3:7-8) (1 John 3:10). Actions speak louder than words or a mere belief. Works of faith shows whether or not a person's faith is genuine or not (James 2:18).

nChrist said:

No man has ever been saved by the Law, mainly because no man has been able to keep it. A lot of confusion could be avoided if people could realize that many things changed at the Cross. There is a big difference between living under the Law and under Grace. Many people tried to continue living under the Law after the Cross, and they were lost. It's also true that no man has ever been saved by works.

You must rightly divide the Holy Bible if you ever want to understand it. There is a big difference between Scripture for and to Jews and Scripture for and to Gentiles. Good luck if you want to live under the Law. Put the Scripture in context to see who and to it is written. I'm saved by Grace through Faith, and I'm saved for eternity. This is not because of anything I deserve, rather what our Lord Jesus Christ did at the Cross, God's Grace in offering me a wonderful gift, and my Faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.

Real Salvation under Grace through Faith is not on and off again. You can only be saved once. I was baptized into the Body of Christ by the Holy Spirit of God, and He has sealed my heart as a purchased possession of our Lord Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit Himself is a seal on my heart that can't be broken. Regardless of what you believe, you can't be Saved today and lost tomorrow. You're very confused if that's what you believe. Start by going to the Cross and understanding what happened there. I have Eternal Life because I'm Saved and relying on the promises of God. For those who believe differently, at what point does Eternal Life become a reality?

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Right, nobody has ever been saved by obeying the Law alone (Ephesians 2:9). Nobody here is promoting that. We are initially and ultimately saved by God's grace through faith (Ephesians 2:8). But we also need works of faith that follow that shows whether or not our faith was genuine or not (James 2:17-18). If we justify sin, that really is not going to work out all too well for us because God cannot agree with sin. Isaiah 59:2 says, "But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear." So yes. One has to live righteously as a part of God's grace as a part of the salvation equation. This righteousness is something God does through the believer, so we would not boast in ourselves. Paul argued against being saved by Law as in reference to Law Alone without God's grace because a certain sect of Jews were trying to deceive Christians into thinking they needed to be FIRST circumcised in order to be saved. See Acts of the Apostles 15:1, Acts of the Apostles 15:5, Acts of the Apostles 15:24.